your land for private use. The liberals on the court are ruining the USA. I think congress should take steps to remove about 5 of them from the court. The obviously have their own agenda. They are making up their own new Constitution.

Agreed. I was furious over this. Where the hell do we live in Zimbabwe or Venezuela?

My thoughts:

www.neoperspectives.com/scotuspropertythieving.htm

Petition for the impeachment of justices.
www.petitiononline.com/lp001/petition.html

I signed it.

No...no...NO, it is the evil Patriot Act, and assault weapons, and global warming that are going to destroy our country! The government being able to seize our property for their biggest campaign contributors who plan to build a factory, mall, or stadium over our neighborhood is perfectly reasonable!!! The judges know best! (Repeat after me..."the judges know best...the judges know best...Is the Kool-Aid good?) They would never make a decision without the best interest of the citizens of the United States and their Constitutional Oath considered!?! Unless of course there is global precedent in the courts of Zimbabwe or Venezuela or Algeria perhaps. Conservative jurists are EVIL and must be filibustered at all costs!!! Let's all just agree to live in Liberal Nirvana...OK?
Just because they are a minority of <30% of the population (or 40 senators, or 5 justices) doesn't mean they shouldn't rule us all...does it???

(Serious response):
Yes, this is a tragedy for the rule of law and death of our Constitutional protections against an all powerful dictatorial government. Now the liberals not only believe all production belongs to government and they will generously allow us to keep some by keeping our tax rates around 50%...but, all property belongs to them as well and they will generously allow us to own our own land...as long as none of their friends want it. Too sad for words to describe. I will look into signing the petition as soon as I get a chance.
Cheers,
H.

Last Edited : Saturday, 25 June 2005 - 15:54

Big business owns the court, apparently. Big Business ain't liberal.

The 5 justices who made this ridiculous ruling certainly are!!! I thought we were supposed to be afraid of Conservative justices being too friendly with Big Business??? Isn't that one of the reasons presented for several of the Democrat filibusters? Perhaps they are even more misguided than it at first appeared.
H.

By the way, this IS a horrifying decision, I almost puked when I heard about it.

Maybe youll need a new political party since the two now exisiting ones seem to be on the take? How about a peoples party? Maybe the voting rates would go above 80% even in the US if there were an alternative that supported the small guy?

It's not about big business. Business are going to be a temporary benificary. If the leftist radicals keep having their way they'll own the businesses too. This is a case of big government owning us.

What's sad about this is that GW can't even veto this, it is not even a law passed by congress. A true example of legislating from the bench.

LOD, who is going to form this third party? IF the conservatives break, that will give the left wingers a free ride to Congress and the Whitehousea gain like it did back in '92. The left wont break because they are in the minority and they are running the show as it is anyway.

Well, it's not like the republicans in congress couldn't do anything about this...

They could always amend the constitution and make the distinction between public use and private use much more clear in the eminent domain clause. They could really spell it out if they wanted to (and had the support for it).

Still I'm not exactly expecting to be saved by the republicans on this one...

Card

Yeah, Pfizer and the New London Development Corporation didn't benefit AT ALL from this decision. They don't stand to make anything, it's all them damn lib'rals fault, yessir.

Amend the Constitution for something that the entire nation would support? What a novel idea.

Instead, we get flag burning amendments and petitions to remove Justices. Neither of which have a chance in hell of happening. What a country!

Here's one to make the blood boil and hopefully kill a few rightists dead....we should have a National Flag Burning Day to prove we have free speech here in America.

www.mpogd.com

Mog,

You will never see me burn an American Flag... unless it is being retired. I was in the military, I swore an oath to defend that flag from all enemies foreign and domestic. I believe the American flag is the symbol for the greatest nation ever to exist on this earth. Many gave their life defending what it is a symbol of, many more will in the future. It is your right under the US constitution to destroy that symobol if you so choose. It is a great right to have, You can piss all over the flag, torch it in protest of the civil and human rights it stands for and throw it on the ground and stomp all over it. That is your right as a free American. I do not support any constitutional ammendment to remove that right, you go right ahead and desicrate your nations symbol, do so in freedom.

Thank you, BigAmigo, you understood my point perfectly. We are a free people as long as we don't take our own freedoms away. Perhaps on a National Flag Burning Day there would be no flags burned except to retire them! It's the right to do so that is important.

Making an amendment to the Constitution to ban flag burning gets brought up whenever the administration's ratings slip, over and over down the years. I never hear it as part of a party platform, though...must not be important then.

This is flipping a sad day for our Country.

~I signed, 2661 Signatures Total~

Flag burning is a non-issue...but to call it a non-issue (which it is!) will get you hatred from people like BigAmigo, who feel so strongly towards it (although I'm glad to see he would be against banning). To him, and people like him, it's important...but in the big scheme of things, banning flag-burning isn't important.

On to the topic of this thread...it's horrendous. I'm disgusted, and seriously hope that it gets fixed by the legislative branch. They have the power to do so, and they better...

As to saying this is the liberal's fault...I'm a liberal and I'm strongly against this. Mog's VERY liberal and he's against this. Just how liberal do you have to be for this to look like a GOOD decision? I don't think this is liberal or conservative, I think it's just crazy.

I have a corner property that is zoned business or residential and I can imagine that the guy across the street would love to turn my house into a parking lot and the guy across the alley behind me would probably love to move his office from a block and a half away So of course I don't like this at all.

PS:
Sorry but something needs to be said about
"desecration of the flag". If I'm not mistaken it is a crime and has been for a long time and there was recent legislation at least in my state to include disposal of one's personal flag.
Can someone verify the actual status of this?
It's all first amendment related. Personally if I saw someone wrap there garbage with it or something similar I would call the police.

TR

Last Edited : Sunday, 26 June 2005 - 04:20

well, the one bit of good news out of this is that it has increased my faith in the American people. Liberal/conservative whoever, everyone is outraged and this unity over such a basic principle is refreshing. There are no party lines in this.

Still, I think this will perhaps show why it is important to have strict interpreters of the Constitution on the Supreme Court.

LOD, I think you're right about another party. I'm liking the libertarian one. Notice Bush hasn't said a peep about this? What the heck?

Big A, well said about the flag burning. Another veteran phrased it saying that he didn't fight for the flag, but for the principles it represented and saving the flag but destroying the principles was the worst possible corruption.

To be precise, BA's military oath was to protect the Constitution, the basis of the country, not the flag, merely a symbol of the country.

Indeed, this is an outrageous decision. But, like cardfan said, I'm not holding my breath waiting for the Republican Congress to go against its big business interests on this one.

Last Edited : Sunday, 26 June 2005 - 09:58

COngress can't do anythong about it, duh. It has been deemed "Constitutional". Any laws limiting that will be considered "Unconstitutional". I'ts socialism, the ultimate goal of those extreme Liberals that are running the Democratic party.

Can somebody tell me what judges desented. Iknow O'conner, but who were the other 3?

Protect the constitution, yes. But the Flag is the symbol of this nation, so it too. Protect the constitution. yes, as did those judges that just raped it.

The one thing that congress CAN do is start impeachment proceedings to remove the traitors from the Supreme Court.

Yep Congress can only impeach and remove the 5 justices. I would like to see one congressman put it in motion. It will be interesting to see who will be against it.

PS on the flag burning. It may be your right to burn the flag, but it should also be the right of everyone to shun you for doing so. Including giving your private employer the right to fire you if they know about it. I think that is a problem now. People have lost the right to act on their own to correct social outrage.