how do i take over quarries and mines?

Click on the building when you have a unit next to it and then click take over. If the unit has enough BP it becomes yours otherwise you will see what percent you have captured. Any unit can capture an unclaimed resource building but you need commandeers to repair and capture owned resources.

A simpler way to learn how to take over resources is to read the manual... it gives better results too!

Hey Rog, I just read the online manual. It took a while to find the section that actually talks about how to capture resources. It is under the "Military FAQ" page. It is also very misleading as it states that you have to use commandeers to capture resource buildings, which is only true if they are owned by another player.

You also can't repair a resource building if there are other player's troops nearby, or bandits, renegades or barbarians.

trainer, the point here is NOT about taking over resources. It's about noobs coming in, jumping into a game withOUT reading the manual and then cluttering the boards with stupid questions.
He could also have asked another player before publishing his/her ignorance and laziness.

You have been here only a short time, do you know how many times per month, per year... we see those annoying questions. It's enough. There's no excuse for being lazy and we shouldn't accept it. [I'm getting into the philosophical issue of acceptable behaviour and not the resource thing anymore].

Everything has to be immediate... quick solution, instant access, fast bloody food, 'wipe my arse for me' attitude. Automatic gear, escalators, doors that open and shut themselves, books that read themselves, food that heats itself... WELL, sod off... (not you trainer) sod off all those lazy buggers that that cause this world to be such a degenerate place.

Hey, how about a button in WOL which suggests the best course of action in movement of troops. An AI for each unit which will indicate on the map which way to send the troops to beat the other guys? Why not? Let's dump the strategy and tactics and the independent thinking which tires us so... Let us get rid of Mog, Sage and 'hell' even TR and have a computer that inserts random jokes/thoughts and reactions by monitoring our eye movements and body temprature... no more free thought or independent thinkers... it would also insure to keep our blood pressure low while we ingest a meal-substitute-pill.

That's it! I've had enough! I'm off to a cave to rub some sticks and light a fire. Then I'm going hunting with rocks... I hope to catch a lazy noob or two while they're sending a SMS to the police or such!

Well Rog this is the information age. People have things to do and don't want to waste their time trying to find information that is even acurate.

The online manual is out of date or misleading on several situations. When I started there was a lot I didn't know. But I had plenty of time to read. Afterwards I still didn't know and would ask questions. The Vets were more tolerant back then. If I were starting now it is likely that WOL would not be a game I continued.

Between the Vets being rude to new players, an online manual that requires twice as much reading as is necessary to find the information, and forum threads that are hard to find to get the information, I would not consider WOL worth my time. I would also be missing out on a great game.

That is why I suggested a new forum for new players, so all of the questions that keep getting asked wont be lost in a clutter of spam.

If their constantly asking questions bothers you, then join the team for updating the online manual. So it is more user friendly and provides the correct information.

Ghengis, don't you take that 'holier than thou' attitude... you're initiative to help update WOL or help Req has its merits but is inappropriate here.

Some vets have always helped noobs and some never have. I can proudly say that I have done much for many noobs, from greeting them on their first day, to step by step gaming. Don't you preach me about being tolerant just because you got a fit of 'changing WOL'.


What I'm saying is that now being the 'information age' does not mean people should be complacent or lazy. And that they are. They spell badly, they don't read instructions, they don't care about their environment or neighbours and much of it is done under the guise of 'Information age'. 'Rubbish!' I say to that.

WOL is a complicated business and the manual is long and requires more then 5 minutes or reading. This IS a complex game... not Tamaguchi! And if you have questions you can ask others first before posting in the forums. If that noob would have asked me I would have given him/her a very detailed answer or helped as much as I can.

Again, the quality of the manual or the resource issue is not the point here, though it certainly lead us here. It's about thinking and not expecting things to be hand fed to you all the time. Thinking about what is going on and how may I find a solution which requires more than instant gratification. It's all related to battling mediocrity which is the weapon of 'right here, right now and no effort involved'.

So there...

Actually Rog, take a look at where tevens posted the question, in the question corner. how many new players actually take the time to figure out forum ettiquete?

I agree with you about players who use bad grammar and spelling because they are to lazy to do it right. But I disagree with you when a player actualy post his question in the proper forum. I haven't seen anyplace where it tells the new player to ask a vet directly before posting in the forums. Along with that a new player should have a reasonable expectation to beable to easily find the information they are looking for.

Yes the manual requires more than 5 minutes to read. Some people like to start playing a game and then read what they need when they need it. Unfortunately the manual doesn't allow that. You either have to read it all, or be frustrated because you can't find what you are looking for. It could be set up so that players can actually find what they are looking for.

You haven't seen me get holier than thou yet

The manual does need a major overhaul. Newbies do need to read up before asking questions.

Let's face it, you don't have to take a test before you join this game! We get the full gamut of the intelligence range of people here, from dumber than dirt to smarter than dirt.

A forum just for helping newbs is surely not a bad idea. Helping them personally is also a very useful act for vets to perform. Some won't ever "get it" and will leave.

Now, did the question that was originally asked get answered to the satisfaction of the asker? If so, close this thread. If not, ask for clarification.

Remember, Rog is a great player and his PMS will be over soon, then he will be back to posting in the jokes thread. We love ya' Rog, hope you can get along without all them newfangled notions like computers and refrigerators!

As long as new players post their questions in the Question Corner, and not on the Notice Board, we should be happy to help.

A lot of the stuff in this game is pretty easy to figure out. I personally didn't read the manual until I had already played a few games. I figured out that you move by clicking on a troop, and clicking where you want them to go. I figured out taking over resource buildings because (surprise surprise) when I moved a troop next to them, the "take over" option came up! The whole concept of "rock paper scissors" was self explanatory. ZoC took some figuring out...but I learned it through experience and a lot of "damn it, that didn't work!"'s.

BUT! I don't expect all the new players to be a competent as I was. I figure if I help out a hopeless new player, thats one more person I can whoop on later