Mog Joined 5/02/2004 Posts : 2663
| Posted : Saturday, 23 July 2005 - 00:26 I built my Battle Planner program: home.earthlink.net/~johnoco/BattlePlanner.swf
and here is the BattleRanker program: home.earthlink.net/~johnoco/BattleRanker.swf
and I want to add a way to tell us how many rank points a battle will generate between any two ranked players and add it to that.
I have seen the algorithm to do this and it is hairy and I can't even find the thread for it anymore. What I need is for people to report their scores so I can build my own somewhat accurate system.
If you folks would enter your battle points lost or gained like this:
56 wins vs 21 = + 2.78 points or 45 loses vs 34 = -7.12 points here in this thread, I can make a fair guess as to the algorithm. Use the ranks BEFORE the battle, too.
Here's one of mine: 140 wins vs 82 = +2.08
Thanks. all! Mog Last Edited : Wednesday, 27 July 2005 - 08:52 | Rog Ironfist Joined 8/04/2003 Posts : 1449
| Posted : Saturday, 23 July 2005 - 02:40 My level....result........Level.......Points change 109............Loss............71............-7.380074 116............Win............20............1.007194 115............Win............91............3.815708 111............Win............96............4.369370 107............Win............21............1.235758 106............Win............51............2.277992 104............Win............36............1.796555 102............Loss............69............-7.153076 109............Loss............115............-4.943154 114............Loss............151............-3.136763 117............Win............20............0.990991 116............Win............27............1.166078 115............Win............98............4.256175 111............Loss............66............-7.680491 118............Loss............20............-9.216590 127............Win............31............1.007194 126............Win............11............0.662932 126............Win............23............0.867580 125............Win............30............1.031390 124............Win............11............0.706320 123............Win............79............2.800576 120............Win............32............1.189427 119............Win............55............1.935484 117............Loss............92............-6.761325 124............Loss............24............-9.250694 133............Win............32............0.909091 132............Win............126............4.941831 127............Loss............79............-7.843137 135............Win............76............2.119779 133............Win............60............1.631799 131............Win............28............0.850869 131............Win............40............1.119005 130............Win............128............5.229008 124............Win............26............0.966576 123............Win............104............4.145199 119............Win............20............0.950226 118............Loss............110............-5.800464 124............Win............101............3.924666 120............Win............7............0.706320 119............Win............41............1.452991 118............Win............43............1.568297 116............Win............37............1.423671 115............Win............73............2.892679 112............Win............76............3.188011 109............Loss............27............-8.904719 118............Win............20............0.990991 117............Win............20............0.990991 116............Win............25............1.119005 115............Win............26............1.166078 114............Win............43............1.694352 112............Loss............44............-8.517887 120............Win............14............0.800368 120............Win............14............0.817264 119............Win............2............0.645463 118............Win............27............1.119005 117............Win............1............0.662932 116............Win............108............4.826694 111............Win............34............1.482112 110............Win............4............0.817264 109............Loss............121............-4.597701 114............Win............51............1.967871
I hope that helps Mog  | | Mog Joined 5/02/2004 Posts : 2663
| Posted : Saturday, 23 July 2005 - 03:47 Perfect! Were those your ranks BEFORE the battle or after? That is important...
Thanks! | | Rog Ironfist Joined 8/04/2003 Posts : 1449
| Posted : Saturday, 23 July 2005 - 04:26 After. Sorry. 
| | Mog Joined 5/02/2004 Posts : 2663
| Posted : Saturday, 23 July 2005 - 04:38 I'll just do the math and add or subtract, it'll be close enough, thanks.
Other folks, I need a wide range of ranks reporting, please. Even single games would be fine.

www.mpogd.com Vote while you're at it... Last Edited : Saturday, 23 July 2005 - 04:40 | TheLix Joined 5/07/2005 Posts : 94
| Posted : Sunday, 24 July 2005 - 22:41
My Level....Result....Level....Points... ...27........Loss......45......-3.923107..
Last Edited : Sunday, 24 July 2005 - 22:43 | West Joined 27/06/2005 Posts : 24
| Posted : Sunday, 24 July 2005 - 23:41 My Level...Result...Opp Level...Points 59 Win 27 3.238675 | | Mal Kavian Joined 5/09/2001 Posts : 2040
| Posted : Monday, 25 July 2005 - 14:53 The bottom starts @ 0 First series of 5's add up to 60 ..
The rest you can work out for yourself :-P I did the basic calcs.. and got my current level -1 So the little point somethings have all mixed it up, but you can work it out if you're so eager :-)
AutoBattle 1 11/3/2004 17 Rog Ironfist Loss -5.288208 Battle 8 9/25/2004 13 ozavatar Win 3.238675 Battle 1 2/6/2004 15 Lonestorm Loss -3.03859 Battle 1 2/5/2004 11 Lonestorm Loss -3.599712 Battle 1 2/5/2004 10 PimpInDistress Loss -1.600512 Battle 1 2/5/2004 12 Overlord Loss -3.49406 Battle 2 2/4/2004 10 grumpalot Win 1.423671 Battle 1 2/3/2004 12 dave350 Loss -5.910165 Battle 1 2/3/2004 10 tribal5.56 Win 2.199688 Battle 1 2/3/2004 16 Bronze Tiger Win 1.539763 AutoBattle 2 1/30/2004 11 Galileo Excelsior Win 1.728701 Battle 5 12/18/2003 14 PimpInDistress Loss -2.278943 Battle 2 11/19/2003 8 Talbain Win 1.394148 Battle 1 11/15/2003 11 TrappedInBlack Win 1.423671 Battle 5 11/15/2003 11 Fulcrum0 Loss -4.597701 Battle 1 11/6/2003 10 Dracon The Red Assasin Win 1.341991 Battle 8 10/30/2003 11 Floyd-O-Matic Win 1.539763 Battle 5 10/25/2003 12 kevyn86 Win 7.245179 Battle 5 10/25/2003 11 pontius Win 1.666667 Battle 5 9/20/2003 14 PimpInDistress Loss -4.201681 Battle 5 9/17/2003 10 wildcat Win 7.291441 Battle 5 9/15/2003 11 harleyxcty Win 1.603694 Battle 5 9/15/2003 14 Zander Loss -4.712535 Battle 5 9/15/2003 10 deadhead Win 2.360581 Battle 5 9/1/2003 14 PimpInDistress Win 6.347699 Battle 5 8/31/2003 12 wildcat Loss -2.663825 Battle 5 7/26/2003 13 wildcat Loss -3.813883 Battle 5 7/11/2003 14 grumpalot Win 1.568297 Battle 5 6/14/2003 11 Jarod Win 1.830065 Battle 5 6/2/2003 13 wildcat Win 5.229008 Battle 5 5/28/2003 5 gueritol Win 3.238675 Battle 5 5/22/2003 13 LOD Loss -5.115089 Battle 5 5/19/2003 14 gueritol Win 2.576095 Battle 5 5/5/2003 12 ozavatar Win 2.992291 Battle 5 4/19/2003 9 ozavatar Win 2.199688 Battle 5 4/16/2003 12 hll Loss -7.843137 Battle 4 4/10/2003 14 Bad13JIM Win 1.796555 Battle 5 4/10/2003 14 tcauburn Win 6.131528 Battle 5 4/8/2003 14 ozavatar Win 5 Battle 5 4/7/2003 10 tcauburn Win 5 Battle 5 4/7/2003 16 Lonestorm Win 5 Battle 5 4/7/2003 12 gequinn Win 5 Battle 5 4/7/2003 10 TheGangsta Win 5 Battle 5 4/5/2003 10 Mikalus Win 5 Battle 5 4/3/2003 10 ozavatar Win 5 Battle 5 4/3/2003 10 Bad13JIM Win 5 Battle 5 4/1/2003 11 charm Win 5 Battle 5 3/31/2003 10 ozavatar Win 5 Battle 5 3/31/2003 9 silv Win 5 Battle 5 3/30/2003 18 Lonestorm Win 5
| | Mog Joined 5/02/2004 Posts : 2663
| Posted : Monday, 25 July 2005 - 18:24 Mal, I need the other person's rank too, so just put in new games where you know that. Thanks. | | Mog Joined 5/02/2004 Posts : 2663
| Posted : Wednesday, 27 July 2005 - 08:54 I came up with an approximate version of the idea I had here:
home.earthlink.net/~johnoco/BattleRanker.swf
I put this link at the top of the the thread too... So give it a try and see how close it is to predicting your rank change in battles. Tell me how it did, too. | | snoop dogg2 Joined 12/05/2005 Posts : 88
| Posted : Wednesday, 27 July 2005 - 20:06 it did ok it was corect 3 out of 5 battles | | Mog Joined 5/02/2004 Posts : 2663
| Posted : Thursday, 28 July 2005 - 05:06 Here's the actual algorithm I used:
_______________________________________ highWin = ( 4.99 - (( highRank - lowrank ) / 18.25 ) );
highLose = ( 10 - highWin );
if( highWin <= 1 ) { highWin = 1.00; }
if ( highLose >= 10 ) { highLose = 9.99; } ________________________________________
just for future reference and for you code geeks out there.
| | Killerdude Joined 1/03/2002 Posts : 661
| Posted : Sunday, 21 August 2005 - 18:52 bump...hey moggy how about adding some cool Barbs to that battle planner , just a suggestion, not forcing you to do anything  | | Mog Joined 5/02/2004 Posts : 2663
| Posted : Sunday, 21 August 2005 - 22:13 Yes, I'll add them...I was kind of waiting to see if Req changed anything else and I'm lazy, too!  | | Bloody_Wasteland Joined 10/12/2004 Posts : 175
| Posted : Monday, 22 August 2005 - 07:21 Looks good Mog...as usual! So, does high lose=low win? | | Mog Joined 5/02/2004 Posts : 2663
| Posted : Monday, 22 August 2005 - 08:44 OK, I made a new version of the BattlePlanner with Barbarians and a few speed improvements. Same link as above. Tell me if you see any mistakes or it doesn't work.
Flash is a cool program!
In the BattleRanker program the higher ranked player is always entered first. Then the lower ranked player. The outcome is good for either, if the low ranked player wins he/she gets what the higher ranked player would have lost.
Remember though, it is only approximate until I fix it up a bit with the real algorithm from Req, which he has given me and I haven't put in yet... 
Since I don't need any mores battle figures I'll close the thread. Last Edited : Monday, 22 August 2005 - 09:47|
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