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Mog Gold Member
Joined 5/02/2004
Posts : 2663

Posted : Saturday, 23 July 2005 - 00:26

I built my Battle Planner program:
home.earthlink.net/~johnoco/BattlePlanner.swf


and here is the BattleRanker program:
home.earthlink.net/~johnoco/BattleRanker.swf


and I want to add a way to tell us how many rank points a battle will generate between any two ranked players and add it to that.

I have seen the algorithm to do this and it is hairy and I can't even find the thread for it anymore. What I need is for people to report their scores so I can build my own somewhat accurate system.

If you folks would enter your battle points lost or gained like this:

56 wins vs 21 = + 2.78 points
or
45 loses vs 34 = -7.12 points
here in this thread,
I can make a fair guess as to the algorithm.
Use the ranks BEFORE the battle, too.

Here's one of mine:
140 wins vs 82 = +2.08

Thanks. all!
Mog

Last Edited : Wednesday, 27 July 2005 - 08:52

Rog Ironfist Gold Member
Joined 8/04/2003
Posts : 1449

Posted : Saturday, 23 July 2005 - 02:40

My level....result........Level.......Points change
109............Loss............71............-7.380074
116............Win............20............1.007194
115............Win............91............3.815708
111............Win............96............4.369370
107............Win............21............1.235758
106............Win............51............2.277992
104............Win............36............1.796555
102............Loss............69............-7.153076
109............Loss............115............-4.943154
114............Loss............151............-3.136763
117............Win............20............0.990991
116............Win............27............1.166078
115............Win............98............4.256175
111............Loss............66............-7.680491
118............Loss............20............-9.216590
127............Win............31............1.007194
126............Win............11............0.662932
126............Win............23............0.867580
125............Win............30............1.031390
124............Win............11............0.706320
123............Win............79............2.800576
120............Win............32............1.189427
119............Win............55............1.935484
117............Loss............92............-6.761325
124............Loss............24............-9.250694
133............Win............32............0.909091
132............Win............126............4.941831
127............Loss............79............-7.843137
135............Win............76............2.119779
133............Win............60............1.631799
131............Win............28............0.850869
131............Win............40............1.119005
130............Win............128............5.229008
124............Win............26............0.966576
123............Win............104............4.145199
119............Win............20............0.950226
118............Loss............110............-5.800464
124............Win............101............3.924666
120............Win............7............0.706320
119............Win............41............1.452991
118............Win............43............1.568297
116............Win............37............1.423671
115............Win............73............2.892679
112............Win............76............3.188011
109............Loss............27............-8.904719
118............Win............20............0.990991
117............Win............20............0.990991
116............Win............25............1.119005
115............Win............26............1.166078
114............Win............43............1.694352
112............Loss............44............-8.517887
120............Win............14............0.800368
120............Win............14............0.817264
119............Win............2............0.645463
118............Win............27............1.119005
117............Win............1............0.662932
116............Win............108............4.826694
111............Win............34............1.482112
110............Win............4............0.817264
109............Loss............121............-4.597701
114............Win............51............1.967871


I hope that helps Mog

Mog Gold Member
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Posts : 2663

Posted : Saturday, 23 July 2005 - 03:47

Perfect! Were those your ranks BEFORE the battle or after? That is important...

Thanks!

Rog Ironfist Gold Member
Joined 8/04/2003
Posts : 1449

Posted : Saturday, 23 July 2005 - 04:26

After. Sorry.

Mog Gold Member
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Posts : 2663

Posted : Saturday, 23 July 2005 - 04:38

I'll just do the math and add or subtract, it'll be close enough, thanks.

Other folks, I need a wide range of ranks reporting, please. Even single games would be fine.



www.mpogd.com
Vote while you're at it...

Last Edited : Saturday, 23 July 2005 - 04:40

TheLix
Joined 5/07/2005
Posts : 94

Posted : Sunday, 24 July 2005 - 22:41



My Level....Result....Level....Points...
...27........Loss......45......-3.923107..


Last Edited : Sunday, 24 July 2005 - 22:43

West
Joined 27/06/2005
Posts : 24

Posted : Sunday, 24 July 2005 - 23:41

My Level...Result...Opp Level...Points
59 Win 27 3.238675

Mal Kavian
Joined 5/09/2001
Posts : 2040

Posted : Monday, 25 July 2005 - 14:53

The bottom starts @ 0
First series of 5's add up to 60 ..

The rest you can work out for yourself :-P
I did the basic calcs.. and got my current level -1
So the little point somethings have all mixed it up, but you can work it out if you're so eager :-)


AutoBattle 1 11/3/2004 17 Rog Ironfist Loss -5.288208
Battle 8 9/25/2004 13 ozavatar Win 3.238675
Battle 1 2/6/2004 15 Lonestorm Loss -3.03859
Battle 1 2/5/2004 11 Lonestorm Loss -3.599712
Battle 1 2/5/2004 10 PimpInDistress Loss -1.600512
Battle 1 2/5/2004 12 Overlord Loss -3.49406
Battle 2 2/4/2004 10 grumpalot Win 1.423671
Battle 1 2/3/2004 12 dave350 Loss -5.910165
Battle 1 2/3/2004 10 tribal5.56 Win 2.199688
Battle 1 2/3/2004 16 Bronze Tiger Win 1.539763
AutoBattle 2 1/30/2004 11 Galileo Excelsior Win 1.728701
Battle 5 12/18/2003 14 PimpInDistress Loss -2.278943
Battle 2 11/19/2003 8 Talbain Win 1.394148
Battle 1 11/15/2003 11 TrappedInBlack Win 1.423671
Battle 5 11/15/2003 11 Fulcrum0 Loss -4.597701
Battle 1 11/6/2003 10 Dracon The Red Assasin Win 1.341991
Battle 8 10/30/2003 11 Floyd-O-Matic Win 1.539763
Battle 5 10/25/2003 12 kevyn86 Win 7.245179
Battle 5 10/25/2003 11 pontius Win 1.666667
Battle 5 9/20/2003 14 PimpInDistress Loss -4.201681
Battle 5 9/17/2003 10 wildcat Win 7.291441
Battle 5 9/15/2003 11 harleyxcty Win 1.603694
Battle 5 9/15/2003 14 Zander Loss -4.712535
Battle 5 9/15/2003 10 deadhead Win 2.360581
Battle 5 9/1/2003 14 PimpInDistress Win 6.347699
Battle 5 8/31/2003 12 wildcat Loss -2.663825
Battle 5 7/26/2003 13 wildcat Loss -3.813883
Battle 5 7/11/2003 14 grumpalot Win 1.568297
Battle 5 6/14/2003 11 Jarod Win 1.830065
Battle 5 6/2/2003 13 wildcat Win 5.229008
Battle 5 5/28/2003 5 gueritol Win 3.238675
Battle 5 5/22/2003 13 LOD Loss -5.115089
Battle 5 5/19/2003 14 gueritol Win 2.576095
Battle 5 5/5/2003 12 ozavatar Win 2.992291
Battle 5 4/19/2003 9 ozavatar Win 2.199688
Battle 5 4/16/2003 12 hll Loss -7.843137
Battle 4 4/10/2003 14 Bad13JIM Win 1.796555
Battle 5 4/10/2003 14 tcauburn Win 6.131528
Battle 5 4/8/2003 14 ozavatar Win 5
Battle 5 4/7/2003 10 tcauburn Win 5
Battle 5 4/7/2003 16 Lonestorm Win 5
Battle 5 4/7/2003 12 gequinn Win 5
Battle 5 4/7/2003 10 TheGangsta Win 5
Battle 5 4/5/2003 10 Mikalus Win 5
Battle 5 4/3/2003 10 ozavatar Win 5
Battle 5 4/3/2003 10 Bad13JIM Win 5
Battle 5 4/1/2003 11 charm Win 5
Battle 5 3/31/2003 10 ozavatar Win 5
Battle 5 3/31/2003 9 silv Win 5
Battle 5 3/30/2003 18 Lonestorm Win 5

Mog Gold Member
Joined 5/02/2004
Posts : 2663

Posted : Monday, 25 July 2005 - 18:24

Mal, I need the other person's rank too, so just put in new games where you know that. Thanks.

Mog Gold Member
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Posts : 2663

Posted : Wednesday, 27 July 2005 - 08:54

I came up with an approximate version of the idea I had here:

home.earthlink.net/~johnoco/BattleRanker.swf

I put this link at the top of the the thread too...
So give it a try and see how close it is to predicting your rank change in battles. Tell me how it did, too.

snoop dogg2
Joined 12/05/2005
Posts : 88

Posted : Wednesday, 27 July 2005 - 20:06

it did ok it was corect 3 out of 5 battles

Mog Gold Member
Joined 5/02/2004
Posts : 2663

Posted : Thursday, 28 July 2005 - 05:06

Here's the actual algorithm I used:


_______________________________________
highWin = ( 4.99 - (( highRank - lowrank ) / 18.25 ) );

highLose = ( 10 - highWin );

if( highWin <= 1 ) {
highWin = 1.00;
}

if ( highLose >= 10 ) {
highLose = 9.99;
}
________________________________________

just for future reference and for you code geeks out there.

Killerdude
Joined 1/03/2002
Posts : 661

Posted : Sunday, 21 August 2005 - 18:52

bump...hey moggy how about adding some cool Barbs to that battle planner , just a suggestion, not forcing you to do anything

Mog Gold Member
Joined 5/02/2004
Posts : 2663

Posted : Sunday, 21 August 2005 - 22:13

Yes, I'll add them...I was kind of waiting to see if Req changed anything else and I'm lazy, too!

Bloody_Wasteland Gold Member
Joined 10/12/2004
Posts : 175

Posted : Monday, 22 August 2005 - 07:21

Looks good Mog...as usual!
So, does high lose=low win?

Mog Gold Member
Joined 5/02/2004
Posts : 2663

Posted : Monday, 22 August 2005 - 08:44

OK, I made a new version of the BattlePlanner with Barbarians and a few speed improvements. Same link as above. Tell me if you see any mistakes or it doesn't work.

Flash is a cool program!

In the BattleRanker program the higher ranked player is always entered first. Then the lower ranked player. The outcome is good for either, if the low ranked player wins he/she gets what the higher ranked player would have lost.

Remember though, it is only approximate until I fix it up a bit with the real algorithm from Req, which he has given me and I haven't put in yet...


Since I don't need any mores battle figures I'll close the thread.

Last Edited : Monday, 22 August 2005 - 09:47

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