In one of the Beginner games I've played in I made a bargain with a fellow player against another one. This seems to have worked fairly well, though we'll not be able to act on our shared intelligence since the game's almost over, but in a standard game, for all practical purposes, how useful are these background alliances and deals?

Nevermor,
As you begin playing the true campaign games, you will find that diplomacy with other players can be vital in your success. Normally, there are two basic agreements, NAPs(non-agression pacts) and Alliances. Naps can be agreed upon for different lengths of time and you may have a nap in force with more than one player. Alliances are considered more permanent agreements, but can be in different forms(defensive only), or full agreements in which your ally assists you in offensive movements as well as defensive ones.

The crucial point to remember is that you define the agreement as much in detail as possible with the other player(to avoid disagreements or misunderstandings)...agreements have been broken without prior notice and you must expect that possibility and guard against it.

As you play, you will learn who you can trust and who you can't....usually comments are made concerning broken agreements in the 'chit chat' forum, from time to time. Read those forums and learn from the experiences of other players.

Last Edited : Wednesday, 27 November 2002 - 18:42

Well unless you get a NAP after the alliance is over then your going to have to watch him because he might consider attacking you espically if he knows how you work. But if you want to go to war with him after you take out a bigger threat then it would work good for you because you can do a little spying and prepare for it. I don't know of a temp alliance that I didn't have a NAP with.

two comments, i dont think its right to use an alliance to spy on a guy just so u can fight him later

and the seconds is that the best allainaces are with players u know and u knwo can trust, like some1 whos been playing for a long time and no one has anythign bad on them or some1 u know

Thanks for the suggestions. Are these alliances simply verbal agreements or is there a panel to access them with?

I have only had a few temp alliances the time that I have played on wol and I never went to war with them afterwards but if you do go to war you will either use the knowledge you know or say thats spying and I don't want to do that and I don't know anybody who is going to lose over something thats not really dishonorable.

Alliances are all about honor. You respect the alliance and the person and you won't have problems. Naps are alot of times made to protect a flank or something.

Nevermor...just use the message system....speak to the player and work it out.

If you REALLY feel bitchy, announce the alliance on the forum so that neither side can back out of it unfairly later :-)

However, I don't think your ally would love you for this :-)

Temporary alliance are nice, but permanent alliances give a much more comfy feeling. In a permanent alliance you can share all intell safely. In a temporary alliance it's just waiting to be backstabbed (or to have the alliance dissolved at a for him most opportune moment).

However, it's nice to make a temporary one against a common foe.

just remember that it is not wise to make alliances/NAPs with all of your neibors, because when you march on someone, that person is going to be accross that map and it will leave you wide open for invation by any one of your NAPs or allies.

Another thing to remember, don't make NAPs/alliances with 1/2 of the map, because then who are you going to attack? what happens when those few that you didn't NAP/ally with die off? What if one ally asks for help against another person who is also your ally?

>If you REALLY feel bitchy, announce the alliance on the >forum so that neither side can back out of it unfairly >later :-)

... And so that CTD could say about that alliance.
How morbid CTD heheheh

Ok, so I sound like a lawyer...

Well, u sound more like a yellow journalist...

Some unpleasant character, anyway :-)