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AuthorTopic : Getting mauled by 'bullies' (closed)
George Anthony
Joined 21/10/2002
Posts : 247

Posted : Sunday, 18 May 2003 - 19:39

Sugarleo suggested in another forum to name those who engage in unnecessary gang-banging, so I'd like to announce that after having continually recruited about 2 or 3 armies per turn (which is all I have left) lone, Jimair1, and Vince Carson are taking turns at me with Macemen and Knights and Marksman, etc. It really is a show of unprofessionalism and inneficiency. Why they can't attack each other or end their alliance to add to the game, I do not know.

Crovax
Joined 7/01/2003
Posts : 595

Posted : Monday, 19 May 2003 - 20:03

Well it definatly is difficult going up against 2 players, but depending on who you ask, a 2v1 does not considered a gang-bang.. if it was 3v1... then that is a different story.

Perhaps those two players are clan mates? or if you three are the last people... are you in the lead? remember people play to win and/or to simply increase there level.

If your in the lead, then it makes sense they would try to take you down... and perhaps if they defeated you, they will then then go after each other..

So there could be reasons for it.. if there are others in the game.. try to get them to help you out.

while they may be bullies... again most people would not consider that a gangbang

sugarleo Gold Member
Joined 4/05/2002
Posts : 2720

Posted : Monday, 19 May 2003 - 22:19

I disagree, Crovax...two against one is a gangbang, GA is talking about 3 v 1 and there isn't any debate over that being a gangbang.

However, a 2 v 1 COULD be a fair fight...depending on the losses incurred during previous battles. I have agreed in the past to take on two players, either because they had suffered more losses than me or I had far more resources/castles than them together...making it a 'fair' gangbang.

George Anthony
Joined 21/10/2002
Posts : 247

Posted : Monday, 19 May 2003 - 23:29

I had barely made it to being 4th of 4 and all three of the other guys had about 5-7 troops at my castle. But I'm elimed, now, so no more crying.

lone
Joined 10/09/2001
Posts : 75

Posted : Thursday, 22 May 2003 - 10:38

As one of the 3 people you name, i resent that remark.

How could the three of us be "ganging up" on you when Theres only two people left with military? When I was busy destroying Carson while Jimair was busy wasting you?
I just came down to finish you off so we could end the game, cause for some reason, despite both of you having no units left, and both of you having no buildings left (aside from your castle, which Carson has already lost) there is still 4 people in the game, and thus the game cant be ended yet

Trust me, as soon as either you or carson appear on the dead list, the vote to end the game goes through.

gueritol Gold Member
Joined 7/02/2003
Posts : 2470

Posted : Thursday, 22 May 2003 - 11:33

SO I ask all what to do when you have a semi-dead guy that just doesn't want to quit, he's all out of buildings and resources and it's just running around hidden in a corner.

tarim Gold Member
Joined 18/10/2002
Posts : 2372

Posted : Thursday, 22 May 2003 - 17:26

In fact you can jointly end the game with 4 players.
I know it says '2 or 3' but when you get down to 4 the option to joint-end the game is there when it wasn't before.

George Anthony
Joined 21/10/2002
Posts : 247

Posted : Thursday, 22 May 2003 - 22:28

As of this moment, Jimair1 has 3 comms in the castle, and lone has several ballista heavy falcs knights and marksman all standing around while Jimair tkes over(all he has is the comms.) I can see the possibility of an alliance or non-aggression, but using all that muscle to concentrate on the weaker player does not sound like very much fun. lone, you were ranked 1st, the other two afteryou, and I was barely alive in my "corner" And all three of you wound up standing around at my castle eliminating me. I know what I'm talking about, reguardless of the popularity of OVER-KILL.

lone
Joined 10/09/2001
Posts : 75

Posted : Thursday, 22 May 2003 - 23:48

Id eliminated vince carsons army, all i needed was to take his castle.
What else was i supposed to do with my troops?
Stand around and let jimair get all the xp?
Oh, and while i do have some units around your castle, jimair had them there as well, and more of them. Its just that i had the catapults to destroy everything in one hit, and i have heav cav instead of falcs so do more damage

its got nothing to do with a gangbang, you were dead long before i arrived, its just a simple clean up operation

But hey, you could easily make it finish if youd just said something, If you had come out and used a bit of diplomacy, we could be ending the game right now
but, since you are here whining away, I want to make sure you DONT get a finish.

George Anthony
Joined 21/10/2002
Posts : 247

Posted : Friday, 23 May 2003 - 17:57

You made 2 or three comments in that last post that make it evident you could not sit across the table from me unless you controlled your mouth. I have not called you a bunch of grade school names(mayby your in grade school), that is important when COMMUNICATING with people on a network. I will not say anything more about it.

Belisarius
Joined 11/05/2003
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Posted : Sunday, 25 May 2003 - 20:53

If you are in 1st,of course you will be attacked.If it takes 2 players to knock someone out of first, then they should wait until the victim is hopelessly 3rd and then fight or agree on who gets 2nd.

sugarleo Gold Member
Joined 4/05/2002
Posts : 2720

Posted : Sunday, 25 May 2003 - 21:24

Being in first place in any game doesn't give the right for the other players to decide to team up and beat him down...that's gangbanging period. A second or third player can interfere in ways other than actually attacking(sharing intel, ect.), and that's just as dishonorable in my opinion.

the cat
Joined 10/02/2003
Posts : 404

Posted : Monday, 26 May 2003 - 22:32

How about this scenario then? I'm in a last man standing game and effectively there are 3 of us left. I'm fighting one guy, the other is allied to both of us and doesn't know what to do. So far he's staying out of things. But isn't that in itself an advantage, as he'll be in the best situation to win after we've worn ourselves down. I hope he stays out of things, as I'm having a good one on one battle, but I wouldn't blame him whichever course he took.

zorg Gold Member
Joined 20/11/2002
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Posted : Monday, 26 May 2003 - 22:39

I think this is getting off topic, but no big deal....
I would think Mr Cat, that if that one guy stays out of the fight, he won't be gaining any exp points. Even when you lose troops in battle, you can still be gaining. You only lose 1/2 of the points that are lost, and you gain 100% of what you kill!

This means if you want experience points, FIGHT, not sit and watch with a big bowl of popcorn.

Even if one of you two doing the fighting loses and is gone, both of you could be so high up in the points, that Mr sit-and-wait can't catch you guys, even after you are killed!

Good Luck!

Iceman13
Joined 24/11/2001
Posts : 480

Posted : Monday, 26 May 2003 - 23:08

But, he said this was a Last Man Standing game in which the points don't really matter... you're ranked on how long you lasted in the game.

relax
Joined 26/10/2002
Posts : 42

Posted : Tuesday, 27 May 2003 - 08:48

listen guys,,this is a war game,,and you know what they say,,all is fare in love and war,,,so stop crying and get off your butt and fight,,,i would never hurt an ally,,BUTTTT,,i have no problems what so ever with stratigicly breaking a NAP for my own survival,,,think about it folks,,,WAR IS WAR!!

Last Edited : Tuesday, 27 May 2003 - 08:49

the cat
Joined 10/02/2003
Posts : 404

Posted : Tuesday, 27 May 2003 - 09:29

Relax is right. I never mind too much whatever happens. If someone breaks our deal, it's no big deal. But thanks for the advice Zorg. It is a LMS game, so points don't matter presumably, but I never knew about only losing half the points when you are killed. That explains a few things!

tarim Gold Member
Joined 18/10/2002
Posts : 2372

Posted : Tuesday, 27 May 2003 - 09:37

LMS games DO work on points!
They only END when one player is left (or if the last 4 or fewer joint end).The last man standing is not neccessarily the winner.

Falkenberg
Joined 2/12/2002
Posts : 166

Posted : Tuesday, 27 May 2003 - 13:11

So then what's the point of LMS? They seem to be just normal games with a different name.

Iceman13
Joined 24/11/2001
Posts : 480

Posted : Tuesday, 27 May 2003 - 14:08

You've gotta be kiddin' me...

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