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RIC1981
Joined 14/03/2004
Posts : 35

Posted : Tuesday, 23 March 2004 - 06:02

i am trying to learn to fight with the demonic race but even with a good selection of demons i lose. i tend to go for:
1 demi
2lord
2shearvers
and then what ever i can get with what i have left

tarim Gold Member
Joined 18/10/2002
Posts : 2372

Posted : Tuesday, 23 March 2004 - 07:23

That's a good selection if you include neeths at the lower end of the scale.Winning will come with time.

RIC1981
Joined 14/03/2004
Posts : 35

Posted : Tuesday, 23 March 2004 - 10:00

i am fighting in novice 6 with 5000 points i selected:
1 demi
2 lords
2 shaevars
7 neechts
1 baow demon
1 wyngems

do you think this is a good selection.
i am learning to fight and could really use the advice.

Michyl de Ruyter
Joined 22/10/2003
Posts : 561

Posted : Tuesday, 23 March 2004 - 10:10

Sounds like a sound set-up. But don't worry you'll learn by doing as the rest of us did! And check on what's troop of the day. Since they are DemiLords I would have chose them and no small stuff.... Good luck!

kingrichard
Joined 13/11/2002
Posts : 1127

Posted : Tuesday, 23 March 2004 - 11:52

demon lords as totd?
time to take some paper units?!!

Michyl de Ruyter
Joined 22/10/2003
Posts : 561

Posted : Tuesday, 23 March 2004 - 11:55

Sorry ment demigods...

tarim Gold Member
Joined 18/10/2002
Posts : 2372

Posted : Tuesday, 23 March 2004 - 12:05

Quick,fight KR before he reads this!

Michyl de Ruyter
Joined 22/10/2003
Posts : 561

Posted : Tuesday, 23 March 2004 - 12:10

Well TR why don't you chalange him....

kingrichard
Joined 13/11/2002
Posts : 1127

Posted : Tuesday, 23 March 2004 - 12:12

Haha tarim.
it was only a tip in general to take some paper units vs. rock troops.

But now i understand why so many players want to fight me in a battle today

tarim Gold Member
Joined 18/10/2002
Posts : 2372

Posted : Tuesday, 23 March 2004 - 12:17

Except for TR,who we all know doesn't fight Battles.

Michyl de Ruyter
Joined 22/10/2003
Posts : 561

Posted : Tuesday, 23 March 2004 - 12:27

*slaps himself*

Sorry Tarim, i meant you fc!

Gutterfly Silver Member
Joined 19/01/2002
Posts : 1633

Posted : Tuesday, 23 March 2004 - 23:08

as a good rule of thumb, I say never pick wyngerns unless you have some spare points that you don't know what else to spend on.
While wyngerns are flying, they really arent much of a match for shaevars.

Kyrion Gold Member
Joined 5/09/2003
Posts : 633

Posted : Wednesday, 24 March 2004 - 03:37

they can kill spearmen!

And I think everyone has missed the most important thing when choosing a demon force!


NO ORPHATHS!!!


Kyrion
P.O.O.S.C.U.M.

Kyrion Gold Member
Joined 5/09/2003
Posts : 633

Posted : Wednesday, 24 March 2004 - 08:43

On a more serious note, and now I've got some more exp. at using demons , I can impart some great wisdom

First Know theyself, or somesuch, Sun Tze probably said something about it, anyways, you need to know all the parts to your force. i.e.

Demi-Gods: Ultra powerful, but they attract the enemies attacks a lot, they are also faster than most of the force and can fly. Leading the assault with them can be a bad move, flanks are good places for them (especially as they don't suffer move penalties) and any scouts the enmy has a long way from the main force can be destroyed.

Demon lord: The true power in a demon force against Medi. In terms of points these this are the ultimate against the mass HC of medi forces, they are also powerful against demi-gods (though slower), watch for knights and shaevars, as both can hack them down in decent numbers.

Shaevars: More powerful against demons (where they take down the demon lords, due to their low points), against HC though they get chopped down.

Orphaths: Strengths: Cuteness, Weaknesses: combat ability, offence, defence, speed. An endangered species, only truely evil people take enslaved orphaths along in their army.


Secondly: Know thy enemy, which, if they're demons, is kinda already done in the first bit.

Thirdly: Know thy terrain, or something like that. The grass bit looks better when covered with blood, preferably the opponents, the swamp is good for flanking from the top castle, the snow is good for the bottom, there are certain spots to hide in as well, and defensible positions..

Fourthly: control the battle
This involves you springing surprises on the enmy, hit one flank really hard and put token resistance on the other, hold up their big troops while you remove the fodder, swoop in on their range troops etc. When a pair of neehts can hold up a stack of Demon lords for a turn that can make a difference...

And fifthly remove retal with weak stuff! That's what those neehts and squinches are there for!


Kyrion

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