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TaurusRex Gold Member
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Posted : Tuesday, 25 January 2005 - 16:01

First I have been suffering with a "keyboard condition" for several years now where apparently I must hit a key or combination of keys in the dark that causes "normal inserting" to add a letter or word not possible (i.e. unless I create a "skipped line" by entering down at the point where I want to insert and then add my inserted letter or word with a skipped line in between where I want to do an insert and the next "word or letter", my typing will cause the words following if I try to do a normal insert to be "over-run").
Does anyone know if there is a key and which it is to overcome the problem I described above?

Finally I have seen sometimes where a post gets extended so far from left to right that the screen has to be "scrolled" in order to see the end of a line of type. When it occurs, the thread I think IMO gets ruined;
but I have found a possible "constructive use" for it (i.e. if it can be controlled).
It may be useful to extend a "flow chart" as far as possible "left to right" without having to go to another page so often or repeat "all the last information" below on the same page.
Does anyone know if the "above from "Finally"" is caused by using a higher resolution or something?

TR

Last Edited : Tuesday, 25 January 2005 - 16:04

Fanatic
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Posted : Tuesday, 25 January 2005 - 17:00

I didn't follow your first question.

The second one occurs when a long string of characters is in a post with no spaces inbetween. This most commonly happens when someone posts a long URL. Lower resolution settings for your moniter are more likely to suffer from horizontal scroll bar syndrome simply because at lower resolution a few number of characters without a space will cause the text to extend past the browser boundaries. A very quick way to see this in action is to shrink the horizontal width of your browser to half an inch or so. You will see in that case that even common everyday average length words result in a horizontal scroll bar (best seen on a website with no graphic images as images will also cause the same behavior).

Last Edited : Tuesday, 25 January 2005 - 17:01

TaurusRex Gold Member
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Posted : Tuesday, 25 January 2005 - 18:53

Okay thanks "Fanatic"
I'll try experimenting on some old posts to see if I can induce the "scroll effect". I should be able to do an edit to put it back the way it was or induce it from what I can understand.

PS:
The first question ... yes I even found it difficult to express but maybe I should try just explaining just the problem I'm having rather than also the precarious method I have to use to overcome it.

The problem seems to be that I often hit a wrong key which I can't even see that seems to cause an abnormal typing misfunction of the keyboard.
The misfunction is that I can't go back to "add/insert" a letter in a mis-spelled word where a letter has been omitted without "over-running" letters of the word that are correct (i.e. e.g. if I spelled the word "induce" as "indce" and I try to correct it by just inserting a "u", when this problem occurs, I would get "indue" instead of a correction (i.e. the "c" would get over-run by the inserted "u")).

I keep thinking that if I caused the misfunction by hitting some odd key that the problem should possibly be correctable by hitting some other key or combination of keys.
I mean ... did I accidently turn off "insert mode" or something?
Can "insert mode" be turned back on?
Again I am able to use a "precarious method" to make my corrections that I tried to describe in the first post and I am not having the problem all of the time and not now but when it does occur, it can be very annoying to finish a post and it does occur often.

As a matter of fact I caused the problem to occur just before finishing this post.
I hope that's more clear and I know it's still difficult to understand but I don't think I can explain it without getting similarly "convoluted".
Maybe there is no "toggle" to turn the "insert mode off/on"
but it's annoying enough to try to find out.

TR

Fanatic
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Posted : Tuesday, 25 January 2005 - 22:55

Look for an 'Insert' key on your keyboard. Usually it's located above the arrow keys. If it is a laptop you are using it could be just about anywhere.

TaurusRex Gold Member
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Posted : Wednesday, 26 January 2005 - 04:50

Yes I found the "insert key" alongside of the "backspace key" but I'm not sure if that is the key I'm hitting that causes the problem. The problem seems to occur when I accidently hit one of the "special keys" below the "right shift key" but again I'm not really sure of that either.
In any event I will try to "toggle" that "insert key" at the next occurrence of the problem because hopefully it is the key that might correct the problem.
*(it doesn't correct it ... see PS: )*

Thanks again "Fanatic"
and I also got that "scroll effect" to work So when I get some more information on the "research flow", I may try to help give some "feedback" for that "flow chart".

PS:
Well I'm having the "insert problem" now and "toggling" the "insert key" doesn't seem to have any effect. The "insert key" seems to do the opposite of the "backspace key" (i.e. it erases "left to right" instead of "right to left"). A correction of the problem should cause any letters to be "bumped forward" instead of erased
So "Fanatic"
don't worry about it but thanks for trying to help.

TR

Last Edited : Wednesday, 26 January 2005 - 04:53

Fanatic
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Posted : Wednesday, 26 January 2005 - 11:26

Try your 'delete' key (not backspace). It almost sounds like the insert key is either mislabeled, or for some reason on your system has been remapped to 'delete'.

TaurusRex Gold Member
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Posted : Wednesday, 26 January 2005 - 17:00

I'll try it next occurence of the problem
and I'll let you know if it works "Fan".
I started to try to troubleshoot my keyboard but I haven't ever been successful to trouble shoot anthing except my processor because there is always some condition that I can't seem to meet.
It asks if my keyboard is a "UBS" keyboard and under system information I don't find that my keyboard is described as "UBS".
I do see "PNP" whatever the "hey i.e."

Anyway the keyboard and the "cpu" are from the same manufacturer but I'm wondering if there may be a "3 way" compatibility problem involving my "ISP, WinXP upgrades, and my computer" because my "ISP" at the time I purchased was not among the listed for "auto-internet sign up".
Also I openned properties for my keyboard and there is an option to upgrade I think the driver that it says I could put back but "Wow ",
"Hasn't "xp" been great?"
I'm wondering how many other things need upgrading that I don't know need it.

TR

Ghengis Khan Gold Member
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Posted : Saturday, 29 January 2005 - 22:45

TR keep in mind that microsoft is backwards compatible to some degree.
At one time there was a key combination that allowed you to insert text. I don't know what the combination was. But it sounds like you are hitting that combination to cause the insert and replace to occur. If it happens you should be able to hit the insert button to make it stop.

TaurusRex Gold Member
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Posted : Sunday, 30 January 2005 - 03:02

"GK"
I already tried that and it didn't stop it and now I have finally got to try the "delete key" which is where "Fanatic" has said the "insert key" is supposed to be and the "delete key" doesn't stop it either but instead erases "left to right" as did the "insert key".
Also I tried the "upgrade procedure" but there is no upgrade for my keyboard and in the "properties window" I think it was that I saw it says that "this device is working properly".

Anyway thanks again for trying to help "Fanatic" and "GK"
but I think the solution is for me to stop typing in the "dark"
because this last occurrence of the problem I think I saw started after accidently hitting either the "1" or the "4" of the "number pad" on the right.
Under the "4" is a "left direction arrow" and under the "1" is the word "end".
I really appreciate you guys trying to help with this but I'm really thinking that the problem is being caused by my hitting a key that there is no logical reason to hit and there may be no solution other than to reboot or use the precarious method I already described in an earlier post.
Although sometimes this problem does go away as mysteriously as it gets started without having to reboot.

TR

Rog Ironfist Gold Member
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Posted : Sunday, 30 January 2005 - 03:15

TR, it might be that your keyboard has a bad circuit or a bad connection within it. Maybe simple as cleaning the keyboard. Try hooking in another keyboard and see if it eliminates the problem. Could be a simple mechanical failure.

gueritol Gold Member
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Posted : Sunday, 30 January 2005 - 06:00

TR I think is one of those computer errors that is between the keyboard and the chair ... get it!?

TaurusRex Gold Member
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Posted : Sunday, 30 January 2005 - 11:03

Yes "Guer" I get it.
Okay
Here's what I think again.
Based on this link that follows:

ibmdocs.ncep.noaa.gov/info/en_US/a_doc_lib/aixuser/inedguid/standkeybd.htm

"Fanatic", "GK", and "Guer" are correct
because I tried the "insert key" in my "wordpad" and it functions properly (i.e. it toggles between "bumping the text forward and overwriting it");
So knowing the "insert key" functions properly in my "wordpad", I again tried it here in this post (i.e. this time before the problem has reoccurred) and again the "insert key" functions proberly;

So therefore I must conclude that as "Guer" has stated
"one of those computer errors that is between the keyboard and the chair" (i.e. me
(i.e. IMO I'm hitting a key in the dark that is just not a "logical error" and somehow causing program instructions to get scrambled)).
My keyboard is dust free because it is on my night table sealed in a clear plastic bag and I do try to keep the house clean also but I do reach over in the dark during the night and I do hit wrong keys quite often.
If I didn't finally see that the key does function properly before making any wrong key hits, I might agree that there might be something wrong with the keyboard but the "insert key" definitely does function properly before the problem occurs.

PS:
I have had this problem from when the keyboard was new and I have had it sealed in a plasic bag that I changed three times from when it was new.
Maybe though the clear plastic bag causes "static electricity" that may cause some sort of disruption.

TR

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