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AuthorTopic : Flowchart Saved as Embedded File
TaurusRex Gold Member
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Posted : Friday, 11 February 2005 - 14:52

I have managed to save a flowchart which is quite graphical in nature as an embedded file with my wordpad.
When I open the file, it is displayed nicely on my wordpad screen. It was suggested to me that I provide a link to such a file.
Can someone explain how I can do that?
I have a "Rich text format (*.rtf)" file
entitled "flowchartA" that when I open it,
a very large, colorful flowchart is displayed.

Can someone please explain how I can provide a link to it?



TR

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Posted : Friday, 11 February 2005 - 23:04

Well folks
the "old dog has learned a new trick"
Believe it or not ... by "trial and error", luck and an unceasing desire to assert my integrity concerning my wasted knowledge and fading talent;
I have managed to form a link through my website that opens a file that I uploaded there from my "wordpad" (i.e. which file contains the embedded file from my paint program that causes my work thus far on a flowchart to be displayed).

There is one very big problem with it though. Every time the link is accessed, a screen opens and a choice must be made to open the file with my wordpad or to save the file. If "save the file" is selected, the "Link gets Ruined" and I have to delete it and do the procedure over again to establish the link.

The file "Opens Fine" if "Use Wordpad to Open it" is selected but everytime the file is openned a new download of it is added to my "download folder".
Honestly ... I'm being truthful but I don't want to risk any unforeseen complications by providing the link.
Does anyone now know if/how the screen that asks the user to make a choice can be disabled?

TR

TaurusRex Gold Member
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Posted : Saturday, 12 February 2005 - 00:45

I'm going to take a chance with this link for a few minutes and then remove it.
Will a few of you please try it quickly and acknowledge that it works for me?

Please select "Open with Wordpad" when prompted because the other that says "Save the file" will ruin the link.

PS:
Okay try it now.
It's a "shared link" and it changes apparently.

TR

Last Edited : Saturday, 12 February 2005 - 01:12

kingmen3
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Posted : Saturday, 12 February 2005 - 00:48

ur link don't work..

TaurusRex Gold Member
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Posted : Saturday, 12 February 2005 - 00:50

Yes somethings wrong
It went to the wrong place I have to try it again.

TR

TaurusRex Gold Member
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Posted : Saturday, 12 February 2005 - 01:05

Please try it now.

TR

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Posted : Saturday, 12 February 2005 - 01:10

no something is wrong again

PS:
my luck
I decide to take a chance with the link and the site starts giving me messages that they are having technical problems.
I'll try again another time.

TR

Last Edited : Saturday, 12 February 2005 - 01:35

Mog Gold Member
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Posted : Saturday, 12 February 2005 - 05:30

TR, you are creating a file that is not browser based and so it wants to download and open with WordPad. Even if this works, it won't be accessible to Mac users, like me, small in number though we are.

Some ways to put images like this on screen include:
1) Making a common file type of the file, i.e. a jpeg or gif file from your WordPad file, if possible,if not, then...
2) Take a screenshot of your nice image, turn it into a jpeg or gif with a program such as Photoshop and then put a link to this uploaded image online. (such as: www.yourserver.com/yourImage,jpg )
3) Include the jpeg or gif in a webpage that calls for them. I can send you a template for this if you like. It's just a matter of putting in your image name and uploading the html file and the image it calls. Then the page can include text and links as well.

TaurusRex Gold Member
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Posted : Saturday, 12 February 2005 - 10:40

Well I just wanted a few people to verify that I did manage to get the image displayed in "all its glory"
but the free site I'm using apparently got overloaded with data transfer or something and went down for an hour
(i.e. I got a message that the allocated data transfer for that site has been exceeded and that service would be restored in about an hour).
Admittedly it is a precarious method to make an online display but it did work and I will try it again just to prove that it did work.
It's a matter of principle.

PS:
"Mog"
Seriously though I found a very good site that teaches "html" and "flash" plus "kingmen3" sent me a few link addresses but I'm really a slow learner because I try to understand what I'm doing and that gets in the way sometimes.
Anyway I would like to stay with trying to learn some "html" and "flash" and I'm really overloaded with that for time. I haven't even tried to do anything with "photoshop" yet so that would probably require getting into somewthing else So thanks for the "tips" which I saved in a file and thanks for the offer of the template but I really don't think I will find time to get into it
and also Come spring I have to continue to get my house ready for sale.

TR

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Posted : Saturday, 12 February 2005 - 12:24

PPS:
"Mog"
Thanks again
"savetumba" did mention the "photoshop" to me on a previous occassion but at that time I responded that I wasn't equipped for it ... thinking it was all to do with photo equipment that I don't have and nothing more was said.
However,
the tips you provided caused me to look into my photocenter and I did come to realise after owning this computer for three years as of 2/7/05 that I don't need photos or photo equipment to use it and it is a great asset that I have neglected.

I still have to do things in my own time but thanks again for the "tip"/tips" and I will be getting into that photocenter to see what I can do with it.
I did find that I can open this "flowchartA" image into the "photo center" and I have made some test experiments with a tool that I think will auto-create a "webpath" but I have to grope around to eliminate as many "badguys" (i.e. unknowns) before I get my "nerve up" to do some mor "trial and error" testing.
Anyway I think I have all I need and it is just a matter of learning how to use it but thanks again for
"steering me in a very promissing alternate direction".

TR

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Posted : Saturday, 12 February 2005 - 20:49

Guess what folks I think I got it.

It's not the method that I tried to use before
but I really was using everything I needed already
(i.e. I was already saving these images in my "paint program" as "jpg." files).
I did however take a second look at this that follows:

"(such as: www.yourserver.com/yourImage,jpg )"-by "Mog"

Anyway the best I could determine was that:

"yourserver.com"="geocities.com/marsgranite"
and
"yourImage,jpg"="flowcharta2.JPG";

and when I put "geocities.com/marsgranite/"
from my "Url history" into the "Url address field"
(i.e. when I added a "/" to it),

my "Url history" did the rest (i.e. the Url was "auto-completed" from what was available in the Url history);
So I credit "Mog" with giving me a "good steer";

but I don't think I could have been able to do this without the knowledge that I already had from trying on my own to learn and with the luck that the "Url" was "auto-completed" as I mentioned.
I did however ponder ...
how does it get from there to here?
So thanks again "Mog" for answering that question for me in a way that I was able to deduce it.
So here it is folks in all its glory:

www.geocities.com/marsgranite/flowcharta2.JPG

TR

kingmen3
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Posted : Sunday, 13 February 2005 - 00:28

alrite way 2 go

Bloody_Wasteland Gold Member
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Posted : Sunday, 13 February 2005 - 08:58

Way to go TR! I KNEW you'd figure it out sooner or later

Mog Gold Member
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Posted : Monday, 14 February 2005 - 01:03

OK, TR, next go back into your Photo program and change the size of your image to be about the size of the visible part of your browser window. Probably 400 X 600 pixels will be fine, maybe a bit larger. Then upload it with the same filename it has now and it will overwrite the file already on the server. That way it won't be as huge as it currently is, causing it to need to be scrolled.

Don't be scared, you are learning quickly!

TaurusRex Gold Member
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Posted : Monday, 14 February 2005 - 01:26

"Mog"
I was writing another post. Sorry I just saw your post.
I have been thinking that the "Photoshop" would probably give a more sharp image than I'm getting but all this thus far was done with my "paint program" and that "geocities" free web-space.
I'm still groping in the "photoshop" but I'll keep trying and thanks again for the "tips".

PS:
Did you see the updated one in the "strategy thread" that "Viva" started? The color is all "faded and smeary" but it was really easy to do once I decided to base the flow on the turns.
Also thanks everyone for the encouraging comments.
I'm really not "scared of anything" except leaving my bare-foot hang over the side of the bed in the dark.

TR

Last Edited : Monday, 14 February 2005 - 01:37

TaurusRex Gold Member
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Posted : Monday, 14 February 2005 - 04:59

"Mog"
I used my other file because I thought I might as well "dress up" a more "updated file" but I didn't stop to realise that the file in the post above would have been fine if I reduced it in size because of the large "font size".

The more recent file has such small text that it can't even be read now but I did learn how to resize it and I even put a border on it.
I wasn't able to remove the border though (i.e. it's not a "to and fro" procedure apparently). I guess I would have to use a trimming or cutting tool to remove it.

Anyway here's the one I resized:

www.geocities.com/marsgranite/flowcharta5.JPG

www.geocities.com/marsgranite/flowcharta2b.jpg

PS:
What's the next lesson?
Try to keep them simple please.
*(edit)*
Well it was easy enough so I did the other one also ...
no sense leaving something "as is" that's a waste because it can't be read.

TR

Last Edited : Tuesday, 15 February 2005 - 20:40

TaurusRex Gold Member
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Posted : Monday, 14 February 2005 - 15:08

I started using the "photoshop" to "sharpen up" the image above that can't be read. It was very tedious at first but I'm through the worst part and the rest is fairly easy. There are still several tools I don't know how to use yet,
which is the biggest part of the problem of overcoming the tediousness;
but I know enough to get this image visible.

It's still not quite as good as I wood like it to be but when I have more time I'll do it over from scratch with the "photoshop". It is obviously a better set of tools than the "paint program".

www.geocities.com/marsgranite/flowcharta5.JPG

I'm not finished with it yet but I have some important things to do now.

TR

Last Edited : Tuesday, 15 February 2005 - 20:39

Mog Gold Member
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Posted : Monday, 14 February 2005 - 21:29

TR, I see it as awfully blurry...

TaurusRex Gold Member
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Posted : Monday, 14 February 2005 - 22:44

Yes "Mog"
I'm not finished with it yet.
When I'm done hopefully it will all look at least as good as the upper left 15% of the map and maybe also with some more of the shadows of the old work removed but also eventually I will redo it completely because I'm not happy with the color scheme at all.

TR

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Posted : Tuesday, 15 February 2005 - 10:42

Well I'm finished updating that link but although it is readable, I'm totally disappounted with the color which ran as if I were doing an oil or water painting or something. My arrow lines were at #2 width when I started but somehow ended up about #6 width and I had to discard the color code because the colors became unidentifiable.

www.geocities.com/marsgranite/flowcharta5.JPG

I think the problem is that in order to get a quality image I have to know exactly how I'm going to lay it out and then get it done in one take. I think the more these images get saved and worked over the more they get distorted.

TR

Last Edited : Tuesday, 15 February 2005 - 20:38

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