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AuthorTopic : AAA vs. CoC (closed)
sugarleo Gold Member
Joined 4/05/2002
Posts : 2720

Posted : Saturday, 18 September 2004 - 01:25

As the rising moon could be seen above the walls of Sage's castle, the sounds of battle continued into the new night.
The battle cries seemed less harsh, the clank of metal striking metal not as numerous as had been heard for 8 days and 8 nights past.
As the messenger rushed up to Kings Sugar and Ultima, a slightly different expression could be seen upon his face before he spoke. After catching his breath, the courier exclaimed, Sires!, I bring you news of the battle. At this hour only two enemy forces raise their weapons against us in the castle of Sage. We have surrounded a small band of Sage's militia in the corner of the castle and King Ultima's forces are fighting the last of King Tal's scouts near the north gate. No other enemy forces remain alive in the castle.
King Sugar glanced over to Ultima and commented, At last...perhaps we have gained favor with the Gods and the battle here is near the end. Our armies must be on guard for any forces that may still be waiting within the barracks or hidden within the castle grounds. Much blood has been shed, many good men have died and this is only the beginning....4 more castles of our enemy must be taken as well.
Messenger! Go now and bring the news to Kings LOD, CTD and Braque...let them take heart in knowing that the banners of AAA will soon fly from the towers of the castle of Sage.
Ultima...The ruler of Tal will be greatly angered by this defeat and his forces will share that anger and be anxious to spill our blood in revenge upon his grassy plains...when this assault is finished, we must prepare for the coming battle there.

Ultima Bahamut
Joined 1/12/2001
Posts : 1274

Posted : Saturday, 18 September 2004 - 14:23

darn,ok so like i dont feel much like storytelling right now...but maybe ill cook up something later

So to show that we um defeated all enemy forces...
*does a victory dance*
"oh yeah!...we won!...oh yeah!...we won!"

*goes off doing the annoying victory dance

Ultima Bahamut
Joined 1/12/2001
Posts : 1274

Posted : Sunday, 19 September 2004 - 04:28

Well...i have now taken over Sage's castle...that was hard fought and an stupendous fight you and Tal put up...i congratulate you both...it was not sticks and stones that we were hurling at you

Now on to more pressing matters...

DoRW Empirez
Joined 17/09/2001
Posts : 1521

Posted : Sunday, 19 September 2004 - 15:29

so who is winning? AAA or CoC? Is AAA getting CoC Slapped, or is CoC bieng castrated by AAA? (Laughing to self, oiy ill never get tired of this)

Braquemart
Joined 9/09/2002
Posts : 376

Posted : Sunday, 19 September 2004 - 16:59

We have taken Sage castle...now we are approaching to Cardfan castle...
AAA is winning !!!


PS - We go the positions from 1 to 5...COC are from 6 to 10.

Last Edited : Sunday, 19 September 2004 - 17:00

CTDXXX Silver Member
Joined 19/11/2001
Posts : 5519

Posted : Sunday, 19 September 2004 - 20:18

Cue drunken binge

DoRW Empirez
Joined 17/09/2001
Posts : 1521

Posted : Sunday, 19 September 2004 - 20:20

ouch... yup thats a castration allright.

Gyne
Joined 2/07/2004
Posts : 289

Posted : Monday, 20 September 2004 - 01:23

OH.. A munchkin victory you say.. did you beat them over the heads with lollipops?

Last Edited : Thursday, 23 September 2004 - 20:39

LOD Gold Member
Joined 13/12/2001
Posts : 1590

Posted : Monday, 20 September 2004 - 05:56

You wouldnt belive the damage a 15lb lollipop can make

Crovax
Joined 7/01/2003
Posts : 595

Posted : Monday, 20 September 2004 - 06:25

Well it looks like AAA is well on their way to another win. Hopefully COC was able to learn some valuable team skills from this matchup. The only way you can get better is playing quality opponents.

And while It would appear your not ready to join the ranks of AAA as a 2nd tier clan just yet, your time will come. And then perhaps you can challenge to be among the top tier clans.

Again congrats to AAA, unless they blow it.. but that doesn't sound likely at this point

Braquemart
Joined 9/09/2002
Posts : 376

Posted : Monday, 20 September 2004 - 12:38

Thanks to Crovax...:-)

Ultima Bahamut
Joined 1/12/2001
Posts : 1274

Posted : Monday, 20 September 2004 - 15:31

yes a munchkin victory

Wanna see the whole field from my castle? ...my room has the best view heehee...

Sage
Joined 8/11/2002
Posts : 1871

Posted : Monday, 20 September 2004 - 22:34

Crovax, we're already a 2nd tier clan. :-P

There's the 4 top clans, with averages in the 60's.

Then there's us, in the 40's-50's bracket.

And then there's all the noob clans that are 3rd tier.

Anyways, we're getting there. It's not our team skills that are the problem.

CREST
Joined 1/06/2003
Posts : 322

Posted : Monday, 20 September 2004 - 22:39

yep you said it sage my man its campain skills

we are affter all a battle clan the top battle clan i might add but right you are corv all we need is a little practice

Crovax
Joined 7/01/2003
Posts : 595

Posted : Tuesday, 21 September 2004 - 03:38

Sage, Under your rationalization, yes, but for me, I don't take much into account what a clan's average campaign scores are, because that is misleading. It doesn't indicate how well that clan works as a team. It is generally a ranking indicating their individual skill.

IMO, there are two Tier One clans, which are FSA and BOS. Why are they? because each team's starting 5 is very skilled, and as evident from the clan tourney, they work well together.

2nd Tier clans, would be AAA, IJA, Crusaders. These are clans have have some very skilled players, but from top to bottom, haven't shown thus far to be quite 1st Tier teams. Though these clans could very well defeat BOS or FSA, but it might require a favorable layout for them. On a individual bases guys like Lod, Suger, Viva, Funker, match up with the best of them. And the Crusaders, while I don't know how individually skilled they are, they are very strong with team play, which is more important when it comes to clan games.

3rd Tier we have the rest of the clans who have been around a little bit, COC, Circus, Discordia and WAR. I might be missing a couple. But these clans IMO, are still learning in individual skill and the team aspect. It would be highly unlikely for these clans to beat BOS or FSA even with a favorable layout. And still very difficult for them to beat the 2nd tier clans, but it could happen. About as often as a Division AA football team beating a Mid Major Football team

I am of course assuming that each team is putting forth their 5 best players. This is not a slight at any of the clans, its just how I personally see them. So take that for what its worth.

As far as battle clans, you guys might be the best or among the best.. but who really cares about battle games anyways

Last Edited : Tuesday, 21 September 2004 - 03:41

sugarleo Gold Member
Joined 4/05/2002
Posts : 2720

Posted : Tuesday, 21 September 2004 - 11:36

" but who really cares about battle games anyways ">Crovax.
Couldn't have said it better!

I agree with much of what Crovax stated in his last post...even though in contrast, I do believe AAA to still be in the top tier of clans. Granted, in the last two clan matches (one against FSA), we've used a couple of our newest members and of course our teamplay wasn't quite what it should have been.

But that refers to comments made by Sage concerning the battle tourney...we haven't played 'only' the choice 5 players in the tourney...we've allowed our newest and inexperienced players to participate. That is the only way for your clan members to advance in their skills and coordination...giving them the opportunity to make mistakes and learn. I would dare to say that in the last clan match with FSA, had mimic or another one of our more 'time tested' members been participating, the result could have very well been different.

As to the fighting skills of CoC, in our present match...they have proved very battle worthy, requiring a full 20 turns (I believe) before losing their first castle. Now, we are about to take the second, but as we all know, once one castle is lost, the result is usually forseen and perhaps the determination of the surviving players is somewhat degraded.

AAA looks forward to our next tourney foe, and win, lose or draw....our clan, as others, will be more experienced and more advanced in teamplay than before.

^ector
Joined 11/11/2003
Posts : 493

Posted : Tuesday, 21 September 2004 - 12:24

Crovax:

I'd like to think highly of my own clan, so whatever feelings I have now about your translation of events, I'm sure Sage is feeling tenfold. thus I will try to post before him so he doesn't explode with anger or something

Nah, what you said has some truth to it, BUT, I for one don't think CoC should be taken quite as lightly as you do. I know that I'm biased, so I would ask an alternative sourse:
Anybody from BoS who was in our last non-tourny related clan game, was CoC the pushover Crovax makes it sound? were you guys just going easy on us, to make us FEEL like we were really putting up a darn good fight, or was it a very competative game like I thought it was?

Sage
Joined 8/11/2002
Posts : 1871

Posted : Tuesday, 21 September 2004 - 12:36

"As far as battle clans, you guys might be the best or among the best.. but who really cares about battle games anyways"

Req does, thats why he put them in the game. And until you can beat me at both an auto AND a novice game, I can still stick my tongue out at you and say "I'm better than you."

"IMO, there are two Tier One clans, which are FSA and BOS. Why are they? because each team's starting 5 is very skilled, and as evident from the clan tourney, they work well together."

Congrats on...having the best 5 players? I'm talking about CLANS here, which means EVERYBODY in your clan.

"2nd Tier clans, would be AAA, IJA, Crusaders"

Ok, thats it, we're challenging the Crusaders to a clan game. I don't see how they made that list and we didn't.

"3rd Tier we have the rest of the clans who have been around a little bit, COC, Circus, Discordia and WAR."

We CRUSHED Circus. As in...not even close. At all. It was sorta like that Division AA football team playing a Mid Major Football team you were talking about earlier. And that was Tal's first clan game. But we're still in the same tier as them, eh?

CTDXXX Silver Member
Joined 19/11/2001
Posts : 5519

Posted : Tuesday, 21 September 2004 - 14:01

I think, perhaps Cro worships BoS a bit too much

That would account for both his confidence in his own side (natural), and comparing himself to said heroes

Crovax
Joined 7/01/2003
Posts : 595

Posted : Tuesday, 21 September 2004 - 14:07

The reason Req as a battle latter, is for those who are not able to to play the FULL game well, they have something they can fall back on to feel good about themselves It's like playing Minature Golf to Real Golf.

Yes, the AAA game(s) have always been fun. And anytime your missing quality players like Mimic and Hll, then it is difficult to make up that type of difference. Our Last AAA game, gave AAA a very fortunate layout. We were just fortunate that Big was able to take out Tyler, only a turn or two after, you guys had taken out me.

And as Sugar said, it is good to get all your clansmen playing time, to get that experience. Obviously with each new round, the competition gets tougher, and so you usually can not afford to put anything but your best 5. in FSA we are fortunate, that I think our top 4 are all right in line, and are arguably as good as any other player out there on a indivisual level. And our 5th and 6th teamates, are just a step behind, and learning fast.

I don't know if COC was roled over by AAA, but as Sugar indicated, it did take til around turn 20, for the 1st castle to fall, that usually means it was a pretty tough fight.

It doesn't matter if you crushed the circus.. since they are a 3rd tier clan as well. So you might be the Marshall of Div AA But a COC/Crusaders game would be a good test, especially after their recent Free Agency acquisition of Ghengis Khan.

Sage - And until you can beat me at both an auto AND a novice game, I can still stick my tongue out at you and say "I'm better than you."

Ok, let me ask Big if he has played you in both of those formats, or just demolished you ine one of them.

One note to all clans, I would highly suggest interclan games (granted you need to have quite a few clanmates), but with FSA we recently had one, which also included POD and Grumpalot, and it proved very beneficial as it was the first time we had fought each other, and could see strengths and weaknesses in each other's game.

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