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AuthorTopic : History of Liberals and Conservatives
BigAmigo Gold Member
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Posted : Saturday, 9 July 2005 - 02:41

History Lesson

Division of the human family into two distinct groups began some 12,000 years ago. Humans existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunter/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains in the summer and would go to the beach and live on fish in winter.

The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented by Man to get to the beer. These were the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups: Liberals and Conservatives.

Once beer was discovered, it required grain, and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor the aluminum can was invented yet, so while our early human ancestors were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed.

Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to BBQ at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what became known as the "Conservative Movement".

Other men, who were weaker and less skilled at hunting, learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly BBQ's and doing the sewing, fetching and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the "Liberal Movement." Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as "girlie men."

Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the trade union, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide up the meat and the beer that the conservatives were providing.

Over the years, conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the jackass.

Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish, but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare. Another interesting, revolutionary side note: most of their women have higher testosterone levels than liberal men. Most social workers, personal injury lawyers, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood, and group therapists are liberals. Liberals also invented the Designated Hitter Rule because it wasn't "fair" to make the pitcher also bat.

Conservatives drink domestic beer & eat red meat and potatoes. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, soldiers, athletes, and generally anyone who works productively outside of government. Conservatives who own companies employ other conservatives who want to work for a living.

Liberals produce little, or nothing. They like to "govern" the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tamed, and created a business of trying to get MORE for nothing.

. . . this ends today's History lesson . . .


sam adams
Joined 6/08/2004
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Posted : Saturday, 9 July 2005 - 08:16

Funny. You've never had an original thought in your life, have you?

I loved the beer part though.

Rog Ironfist Gold Member
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Posted : Saturday, 9 July 2005 - 08:49

You prove BA's point.

Yet again a 'Liberal' trying to get something for nothing, in this case; gaining glory and laughs without really contributing to the discussion. Not even a joke, though instead making degrading comment at the person who actually made an effort.

Oh and of course let us NOT forget that you are more intelligent and enlightened for recognising BA's short-comings. Shish!

Gutterfly Silver Member
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Posted : Saturday, 9 July 2005 - 11:19

And let us not forget that teachers and college proffesors are typically liberal-minded. And they're worthless pieces of our society. Damn them!

Hwatta Gold Member
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Posted : Saturday, 9 July 2005 - 11:38

Gutter,
You fail to note that this is a fairly recent historical transition. They used to be very conservative...back when our children actually learned to read, write, and study history and mathematics in school. Now we get all the advantages of multicultural studies, sex indoctrination (oops, they say "education"), and social promotion. Nice reminder of the liberals real impact even now.
Thanks,
H.
PS. But "high self-esteem" is worthwhile too!

Last Edited : Saturday, 9 July 2005 - 11:42

Sage
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Posted : Saturday, 9 July 2005 - 11:40

Yeah, teachers now-a-days aren't doing anything other than converting our children to Islam and convincing them to have group sex.

Hwatta Gold Member
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Posted : Saturday, 9 July 2005 - 11:46

Without the accountability to standards from the "No Child Left Behind" Act...we were headed down that path. Just ask sam adams...he knows how the government actually does everything.

They rescue us from pollution, global warming, and liberal education institutions. Great work!!!

sam adams
Joined 6/08/2004
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Posted : Saturday, 9 July 2005 - 11:56

Rog: www.google.com enter BA's "effort" and see what you get. He proves what conservatives are: take other's ideas and try to get all the glory for themselves.

H: LOL: Quote the NCLB Act as proving your incorrect point, then run down the the government! Now THAT is funny! (though still not original, all conservatives do it)

Last Edited : Saturday, 9 July 2005 - 11:59

Rog Ironfist Gold Member
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Posted : Saturday, 9 July 2005 - 11:58

SAdams: BA found this piece for us and took the bother to post it so all can enjoy it. You just put him down and that's it. Typical and sad.

BTW, your own name is a sort of plagiarism. Isn't it?!

sam adams
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Posted : Saturday, 9 July 2005 - 12:04

True, I put him down. Aren't most of BA's post's that very thing? Seem to me they are.

My handle? Its original, like yours, no one else has it or anything like it.

TaurusRex Gold Member
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Posted : Saturday, 9 July 2005 - 14:53

This is crazy because after four years without smoking I even got off of my daily 5 cups of coffee.
Now all I want to quench my thirst is watermelon.

TR

Gutterfly Silver Member
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Posted : Saturday, 9 July 2005 - 15:09

Yes, Hwatta, every child comes out of our school system a terrible failure because the school system is too liberal. What a terribly logical assessment. What we need is to put God and corporal punishment back into the schools, just like the good old days.

Seriously now Hwatta, the problems with the school systems go much deeper than the cirriculum ever could. Its the environment that kids are brought up in. Gang influence, troubles at home. I doubt kids are dropping out because they're being educated about sex. Kids are given all the tools they need to learn, but certain influences and other things are interfering. And I think beating their lessons into them is a little outdated.

We need to concentrate on fixing the environment these kids are brought up in, put them in a place with better, more positive influences, then you'll see the school systems improving. Until then, no matter how staunch and strict a school you put these kids in, they're still very prone to failure.

Does wanting a better place for kids to learn and grow make me a girlie-man?

edit: grammar mistakes

Last Edited : Saturday, 9 July 2005 - 16:03

Fanatic
Joined 12/01/2003
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Posted : Saturday, 9 July 2005 - 16:36

Right SA, because liberals (say Sage for example) never post anything written by someone else (say the Officer Krumpke song from West Side Story) without including full recognition for the original author, references, etc.

The only issue here is the rest of us 'get it' in both cases and don't need it it explained to us.

Finguld
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Posted : Saturday, 9 July 2005 - 17:06

In public schools there are a lot of government regulations involving students. It is very hard to get a disruptive student out of a class.

Hwatta Gold Member
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Posted : Saturday, 9 July 2005 - 17:11

G-fly - "Seriously now Hwatta, the problems with the school systems go much deeper than the cirriculum ever could. Its the environment that kids are brought up in. Gang influence, troubles at home. I doubt kids are dropping out because they're being educated about sex. Kids are given all the tools they need to learn, but certain influences and other things are interfering. And I think beating their lessons into them is a little outdated."

Wow, you get part of the issue. The problems do go much deeper than the curriculum (although the confused array of liberal agenda items we teach in leu of reading, writing, mathematics, history, and science without any standards surely doesn't help). It is the environment they are brought up in (unavoidable sex, violence, and stupidity on TV and in real life...no standards of decency or "right and wrong"...political correctness...the only "wrong" is to believe someone else has a problem since it is really just their lifestyle choice). It is due to gangs and troubles at home (divorce, drugs, violence, lack of parental care and guidance). Sex ed does have an impact (Some girls do drop out due to being "educated" about sex...if they don't get an abortion...sometimes they stop going to school to raise the baby...this new cultural drive toward sexualization at younger and younger ages affects boys too, only not as directly). The tools they need to learn are there...behind the distractions provided by the liberal culture inside and outside of the classroom...all these liberal influences are indeed interfering.

Who said anything about beating lessons into anyone? I don't know where that one came from?!?

It will all work itself out eventually. Adults will regain control of our school systems. It is even happening in Maryland...an incredibly "blue" state. Parents want their children to learn...some distractions can't be avoided...some are actually introduced to the situation by liberal teachers and interest groups and these need to be removed.

The evidence of the impact of this 40+ year liberal experiment in our education system is overwhelming. And it is not pretty. It will take time, but we conservatives will fix it for you, again. (without beatings)
Cheers,
H.

Last Edited : Saturday, 9 July 2005 - 17:14

Finguld
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Posted : Saturday, 9 July 2005 - 17:16

If you want to fix education you could just copy how Catholic schools teach. Also this would save a heck of a lot of tax money.

Gutterfly Silver Member
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Posted : Saturday, 9 July 2005 - 18:09

"the confused array of liberal agenda items we teach in leu of reading, writing, mathematics, history, and science"

I really don't know what you mean by this. When was the last time you were in a public school Hwatta? I go there everyday, minus the weekends and summer, and I have no clue what you're talking about.

And I think you're looking at bad influences the wrong way. Take kids from a nice, safe community, and then some kids from a poor, unsafe community, both exposed to the same amounts of TV, and "liberal education", and the kids from the nicer community will typically perform better. Why? Positive influence, parents who can devote time to teaching them right from wrong instead of having to work two jobs. Parents and friends have more influence over a child than a dumb TV, but when you're in a bad community, those parents and friends do little to be a good influence. Help improve poor communities, improve their life conditions, so parents don't have to work two jobs, so kids don't start resorting to crime. Then you'll have perfect little citizens to learn and grow to be good hard-working folks in the US of A. Leave the TV alone, thats another things that parents can fix on their own, parents who aren't off at work, parents who are at their homes to raise their children in a positive way.

And really, stop saying kids don't learn their subjects in school, its insulting. You insinuate that I'm recieving a substandard education and growing up not learning a damn thing.

Ghengis Khan Gold Member
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Posted : Saturday, 9 July 2005 - 18:12

yes teach the kids catholic standards, that way we can have a whole new group of religous fanatics running around blowing people up.

traviskicks Gold Member
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Posted : Saturday, 9 July 2005 - 18:14

On Charter schools, written in story format like BA's history story.

www.neoperspectives.com/charterschoolsexplained.htm

TaurusRex Gold Member
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Posted : Saturday, 9 July 2005 - 18:22

Mog I resent the last reference to Catholics above.

TR

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