Fanatic Joined 12/01/2003 Posts : 1148
| Posted : Tuesday, 21 October 2003 - 23:53 The following is my list of 10 rules to follow for doing well in WOL (at least it has worked so far ). Some of these are obvious, yet I see players fail to do them. Some of these some of you will initially laugh at. If you find yourself laughing you should take a real hard look. I have intentionally left detailed descriptions of what I mean by many of these out - figure it out yourselves 
1) Waronline is not a wargame, it is an economic game. 2) Communicate with your neighbors, including your enemies. 3) Scout far and wide and at all borders. 4) Don't be afraid to flee when an encounter is lost. 5) Always fight your enemy on multiple fronts. 6) Never attack melee units with melee units. 7) Never attack ranged units with ranged units. 8) Numbers don't count, proper troop deployment does. 9) Politics define the environment. 10) Understand when to break the above rules - this is vital, but don't abuse this rule.
Last Edited : Tuesday, 21 October 2003 - 23:55 | deadhead Joined 3/04/2002 Posts : 262
| Posted : Wednesday, 22 October 2003 - 00:11 I would agree with all but 6 and 7-- This depends on the situation-- if your (like) troops are stronger-- it might be best to put melee on melee or hit their ranged with yours-- havent really needed to so much in champaign-- but have to all the time in battles. | | CTDXXX Joined 19/11/2001 Posts : 5519
| Posted : Wednesday, 22 October 2003 - 00:19 10a) Don't forget breaking the unwritten rules  i.e. no letting people define your battle for you, if their 'rule' conveniently fits them but strips you of all chance of victory 
But again, you have to know when to do that too, to avoid vet community vendetta  | | Fanatic Joined 12/01/2003 Posts : 1148
| Posted : Wednesday, 22 October 2003 - 02:27 CTD, the unwritten rules are all political and are covered under #9.
deadhead, reread 10. The most obvious exception to rule 6 for example knights against anything. I break rule #6 more than any of them BTW. But most of the opponents I have played against break 6 to often. | | Lons Joined 24/01/2003 Posts : 456
| Posted : Wednesday, 22 October 2003 - 04:52 I like rule number 10! Pretty much defined everything  | | *Boris Joined 29/10/2001 Posts : 259
| Posted : Wednesday, 22 October 2003 - 05:26 Rule number 11: Don't lie & broke NAP's. In game 73 nonfair played Crovax & Finguld! | | Lons Joined 24/01/2003 Posts : 456
| Posted : Wednesday, 22 October 2003 - 05:53 LOL... Those two again!
Bad bad boys... | | Crovax Joined 7/01/2003 Posts : 595
| Posted : Wednesday, 22 October 2003 - 07:19 Rule 12:. Don't attack two of Crovax allies, even though you are part of a gang bang alliance of at least 7. else you die... eh *Boris? | | *Boris Joined 29/10/2001 Posts : 259
| Posted : Wednesday, 22 October 2003 - 07:46 Crovax, how you have eyes lie in Forum?... Finguld attack me first (may ask him), Fanatic spy my area! All your alliance is lower!! | | street gang Joined 22/03/2003 Posts : 418
| Posted : Wednesday, 22 October 2003 - 09:58 why #5 Fanatic? | | *Boris Joined 29/10/2001 Posts : 259
| Posted : Wednesday, 22 October 2003 - 10:39 Fanatic не разбира тази игра. И той е пълен идиот като педерастчетата Crovax & Finguld!  | | Fanatic Joined 12/01/2003 Posts : 1148
| Posted : Wednesday, 22 October 2003 - 11:20 There is no #11. That falls under politics (9).
Boris and Crovax keep your biased, one-sided mud slinging to the chit chat forum please. I'll provide my own perspective on that war there if you wish to sling mud there.
Why #5? Refer to #1, #3 and to a lesser extent #6 and #7. That covers part of why #5. | | VivaChe Joined 6/04/2002 Posts : 1041
| Posted : Wednesday, 22 October 2003 - 13:39 i donґt see a sense in #5,6,7. fight against me and youґll have to do it  and boris and crovax: yeah write it in chit chat so that we all have a bit more fun here | | Crovax Joined 7/01/2003 Posts : 595
| Posted : Wednesday, 22 October 2003 - 14:50 While, I will always defend any accusations against me regardless the forum, as somebody needs to include the truth. But I agree, *Boris, if you want to bring to public the actions of your gang bang alliance, and that of my alliance. move it to chit chat, and see what happens. | | gueritol Joined 7/02/2003 Posts : 2470
| Posted : Wednesday, 22 October 2003 - 15:55 Thanks guys for some decency and common sense. Keep the forums spam free (there are a few of us that do that job on a constant manner, and besides we despise competition ).
I think i can tell where #6 and #7 are coming ... but I think both of them can be reduced to a single one (Or maybe two): Attack first with the stack that will receive less retal. (or that it will do maximum damage and consume most retal.) and then work your way down. If first your able to strike from distance do so, unless your attacking a ranged stack (but that is obvious since no matter what type of troop receives a 33% bonus attacking ranged as melee).
*edited for using the wrong number of the commandments, always been very bad at those *
Last Edited : Wednesday, 22 October 2003 - 15:58 | Egregius Joined 11/07/2001 Posts : 3168
| Posted : Wednesday, 22 October 2003 - 17:22 I disagree with #5 muchly, but otherwise they are decent.
Although 6 and 7 are heavily context-bound and shouldn't be included imo. Change 'never' to 'try to avoid'.
I disagree with #5 because I've tried it sometimes and it caused me to have 2 weak fronts instead of one all-crushing one. | | Fanatic Joined 12/01/2003 Posts : 1148
| Posted : Thursday, 23 October 2003 - 01:37 Viva I'm sure we will get to fight some day. And then we will see That will be a fun battle regardless of how it goes I think.
'try to avoid' is definately the wrong wording. You can always avoid or not at your own discretion, so there is no try here, granted you cannot control what your enemy attacks in all cases, but that comes to their applying or not those rules. Never is the base rule. 6 and 7 are the two rules that contain the most variables that will leave one to make exceptions to the rule. e.g., knights, ballista at max range, other ranged in towers that gives you more range than the enemy, heavily outnumbering the opponent, performing a feint, etc.
Egregius, if you have problems with #5 it is either because: you aren't applying rules 1,3,4,6,7 and 8 well enough (one or more of those anyway) you are being badly outnumbered making rule 8 not apply (which really means you aren't applying rule 4 correctly anyway) or you are simply being outplayed.
There are several problems with the on massive force of brute strength. You are limited in speed to your slowest unit (often ballista) Your enemy knows where all your significant units are located Your enemy can apply as much or little resistance to that force as he/she chooses - the remainder of their forces are then free to wreak havoc on any part of your kingdom they wish to. If they have done 3 properly by the time you get near their castle or their largest cluster of resources they are well prepared to receive you.
gueritol you've caught part of my philosophy with 6 and 7. I insist they remain seperate though because the conditions that prompts one to ignore each of those rules are many times independent of each other. | | CTDXXX Joined 19/11/2001 Posts : 5519
| Posted : Thursday, 23 October 2003 - 02:19 10a again - your views on bug abuse/features are NOT political  | | Egregius Joined 11/07/2001 Posts : 3168
| Posted : Thursday, 23 October 2003 - 19:18 Fanatic: outnumbering your enemy counts on a significant skill difference, or having done less than your opponent in terms of warring neighbours, both of which can't be counted on.
And if you have 2 fronts, that still leaves half the initiative to the opponent, who can use one combined force to crush a divided forces twice. If you consider melee vs ranged, half a force has half as much firepower and half as much protection as a big force, meaning 25% of normal effectiveness.
Unless you're talking about guerilla tactics of course..
And melee vs ranged is heavily context bound. If you got significantly more melee than the opponent (and this doesn't always need to be your fault!) than punching through his troops to get to his ranged is advised...as you're not going to win a shootout. However, I would 'try to avoid' such situations.  | | Saint2k Joined 25/06/2000 Posts : 138
| Posted : Thursday, 23 October 2003 - 21:31 Crovax there was no gangbang allaince you stupid n00b... i was defending monkey simple as that the only gangbang alliance is you and your hence man... picking on poor boris*
And you take this game too serious.... you can whine all you want this is all fair in war.. and where do you get 7? LOL yeah we got 20 in are alliance right behind the forbidden zone were coming 2 get you LOL | |
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