Please guys stop blaming and accusing each other of cheating / unfair play and whingeing.....

IT IS MY FAULT FOR NOT UPDATING THE RULES....FULL STOP.

It doesnt matter if you did or didnt know about the bug before the game because I didnt make it clear in the rules whether it could be used..... It wasnt mentioned as either a banned or a non banned bug.

Lets forget about the time spent waiting to play because it will all fit nicely with the other game (BoS / IJA).

Please join clan game 25 waronline.net/home/egame.asp?gid=824

I apologise to everyone in FSA and AAA.

let me know when the 9th person has joined same hr turn as last time so lets get this up so we can begin monday

I have nothing to apologize with us, Fulcrum.
We all must thank you for spending some of your time organizing the tourney.
In your last post you have expressed my exact point of view.
Thanks a lot.

how many we got now in? lets get everyone in by sunday nite

we have 3 in AAA have 0 in.

Wait one second, guys ?
What about the barracks bug ? Now it is allowed, but why we dont take a common agreement to avoid it ?
Read Fulcrum post in "BOS vs IJA" thread, please. :-)

IF and only IF we ca not trust each other then we might as well allow it.....i will not use this bug if we agree not too....chances are that there will not be any trust between the two clans....however maybe there is a way...on turn one we can have someone confirm whether or not we have all switched our production from Spears to some other unit.Maybe fulc can do this.....how about it?He can check if anyone has more troops than they should.You can always change your password after he has checked it.
Well?

If not then we need a solution soon.
Im always in a position were i can restart the game as i almost never have anything planned....there is always however patince involved too.Im not running thin on it but i know other players definitly are....

Use of the bug will be allowed. We need to get the game going again OR we delay till August and then have another fight in August that it wasn't really followed and we think someone used it to their advantage, etc. (assuming all agreed not to use it in the first place). For the record (Viva take note again) I would be willing to agree to not use it, and would not do so if that were the decision. I just don't find it realistic at present given past history of AAA vs FSA games that all members of both clans would trust all other members of both clans to follow it.

So instead we will call it an experiment in ruined strategy (as boe suggests it removes all the strategy ). That should fall to AAA's advantage anyway if that is indeed the case .

Last Edited : Saturday, 15 May 2004 - 16:36

Been overe 24 hours since the restart was declared. Still no sign of AAA getting into the game. This restart was done at their request. I have personally seen Tyler, LOD and Braq online. They need to get in the game now, further stalling is unacceptible.

IMO, that bug could be discovered during a game (as Sugarleo did)...so I would agree to not use it.
I ask to all members of both AAA and FSA to say their opinion about it. We are 10 guys, why some of us take the responsability to declare his opinion ?

I dont trust Sugar if I cant see him and since I cant see him... ummm no.

Should any new bugs crop up in the middle of the game they will be fully allowed. I have given sugar my word I will inform him immediately of any new bugs that I become aware of. He has promised the same in return. Unless Req makes changes to the code though while the game is in progress I do not expect this to be an issue.

On another not, Braq and I have had some messages in private regarding how the barracks bug works. Just so it is clear to all AAA members let me give an explanation here as I did to Braq in private (I will PM sugar that it will be his responsbibility to make sure his team reads this explanation if they need it - and ask questions about any parts unclear to them).

The barracks production bug is as follows:
When the game starts on the military training page both barracks are listed as producing spearmen/spearmen for their slots of production. In truth what actually gets produced each turn is spearmen/spearmen/militia/scouts/comms (I think I have the numbers correct).
This extra production in troops will occur for UNTIL you hit the update button on the military training page. The only reasons to update your barracks are 1) You have built a third barracks and want it to start producing troops 2) You have upgraded one of your existing barracks to advanced/expert/master troops and wish to start producing the higher troop types 3) You are not in a clan game because you should be following the intended rules of the game (the clan games are an exception because the agreed upon tournament rules allow use of this exploit since it cannot be enforced) 4) Like the IJA/BOS game you have agreed before hand not to use the exploit and trust that your opponents will be honest in their claims not to do so either (not the case here ).

Thanks, Fanatic.
I've msg'd everyone to join up. I tried the link and it didn't connect me, I'll try the other way.

Braque, as far as the production bug, consider it 'allowed', it'll be a personal choice of each player whether he/she uses it. No more disagreements.

And so you send out a message, yet you still have not joined yourself? Another stall yet again.

Fulcrum, we agreed/forced to a restart. Can't they be forced to join the game or forfiet? I mean c'mon if the game was not restarted they'd be playing, so why cant they join the new one, when all 5 of them have been on today?

This is unacceptable.

u all have til the 22hr of monday

Just read Cro-baby's last post...
Fulcrum0 ordered a restart, you lost your 'bug' advantage and you continue your complaining, ranting and raving.

I'm in, finally got the darn thing to work, had to use waronline.net/home/egame.asp?gid=824, with the h t t p : / / in front.

Last Edited : Sunday, 16 May 2004 - 09:33

But what's with the holdup sugar?

Active Players in Queue : BigAmigo, LOD, sugarleo, Crovax[DFS], Fanatic, Byron, Tyler salyers


Ok so now we are 41 hours after Sugar got his restart and still our opponent stalls.

I have an assurance that UB and Braque will join next time they log in. Provided they dont run into major problems joining the game. If they are online as the same time as me I will personally put them into the game.
Raptor, I think you should join immediately aswell

Last Edited : Sunday, 16 May 2004 - 15:58

Still more stalling and name calling by the honerable leader of AAA.

Fulcrum, this restart was their idea. There is no reason that they could not have restarted within hours of the other game ending.

Members of AAA were aware of the bug. This entire thing is an effort by Sugarleo to get a restart of the game they were loosing and now he hopes to delay the game long enough for us to not be able to get our best players in the game. This is so obvious.

I ask that AAA be removed from the clan tourney.