Hey Big why don't you shutup until you get all five of your guys in. Sugar is already in the que Braq and UB will join soon I am sure.

Shutup??

Why don't I Shutup?

And what? Shutup and let Sugar dicatate his terms to us?

Were tired of this, we are tired of the whining and complaing and the insults that has been directed as us. This was not our fault. This restart was not our choice, it was forced upon us because of what AAA failed to do.

Now we are forced to to abide by his timeing too. This is not what this Clan Tourney was supposed to be. We entered it in good faith and we have to put up with his continous stalling both before the game started and now again after your team cried enough to get a 2nd chance.

Raptor will be there within hours of the other 2 joining, trust me. I can get in contact with him at anytime. The problem is that they could have joined the new game within hours of the restart being demanded, Friday evening. Now early Monday, still AAA is not in the game. It is unacceptible and just plain rude. We agreed to the restart but we asked that it start immediatly and all we have gotten is lies and delays and disrespect.

umm fulcrum i told sugar i would be the last one to join to set the clock how it was before and i will be the last to join to set the clock, the game starts 12 from the last person who join thats how u set the clock so lets get everyone in, theres still about 18 hrs to go plenty of time if people were busy on the weekend to check the game if not then fsa will quit the tourney because i say so thank you and have a good day

BA you really need to shut up....the moment on friday i learned of the new clan game i joined......or so i though i did.i have asked fulcrum to do this for me as it seems that each time i join a game i never really do.I am very sorry about this and take responsibility for delaying the game any further but some things are out of my control.And the lies you say you have gotten you can never confirm.you need to stop your ranting and calm down as all you are doin is wasting your own time.

Well lets see. IF you tried to join on Friday that would be odd since we did not get assigned a new clangame until Saturday at 3:00 AM. SO there is no way you tried to join on Friday. Second you have been on on Saturday and SUnday and I have made plenty of post noteing who was in the game. So yea, your stalling.

Tyler admited to me in IRC Saturday morning that he knew about the bug and LOD has yet to post about it. We all know he knew too. SO yea Sugar said he team did not know, he lied.

This still goes back to the fact that the restart was for YOUR teams benefit, there for YOUR team should be more open to our needs of getting this game started ASAP.

And stop telling me to shut up. I am sure censorship is something that you would like, but it's not going to happen.

5 AAA players are in the game and 4 FSA, so now just waiting for Raptor to join....

Gee smartass i learned of it on friday....take a guess what was the soonest i could join?
Sorry if i didnt place that the right way...as for the lies....I believe Braque or Sugar....one of the 2 posted the fact that MOST of our teammates did not know.

BA, you and Sugar have drawn out this very.....LONG dislike of each other for TOO long and it is starting to affect other people too.Understand....your not helping man.you or sugar, you both act like little kids and like this we are all drawn in as well trying to make sure the RIGHT point is taken across...ive seen some very stupid things being posted between the two and if i cared enough id post this and tell you whatsw wrong...my point,you too have to stop for goodness sake please just stop and keep your hatred or dislike whatever you call it for the games.I understand something stupid always happens between the two and your respective clans but understand this is getting out of hand.

like most of my postings....sorry if i write something that does not make sense as i almost never go back to read my posts.

thank you fulcrum i appreciate it.
hopefully raptor joins today....later.

Yes I knew about the bug, but I also know from earlier games that using bugs we didnt agree on wouldnt be an option, I could picture just what you would have said if it was the other way around and you were the ones not using it and we did. Crov would be all over the forums crying about bugabusing cheaters and try to get us disqualified. I didnt want any of that so I didnt tell anyone about that possibillity. I was then greatly dissapointed in fsa when I learned you werent as fair as you wanted others to be especially Crov who I really didnt expect to use any bugs, alas he proved not to be any better than the rest of us. I guess you now have 5 new names to add to that bugabuser list of yours crov.
I wanted it to be a fair game but I guess that wasnt in the plans of the fsa, theyd rather use a bug to get the upper hand rather than playing it fair...

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GEE, make a conspiracy theory out of that one too.

So as I understand it, Both Lod and Tyler knew of the bug. And Lod knowing the bad blood between FSA and AAA, chose deliberatly not to bring up the bug before our game, to make sure everybody's on the same page with it.

How interesting, that initially we (FSA) were being called out for not doing the exact same thing. So why didn't Lod or Tyler bring it up even with their own clan? Why didn't their own clan ask Lod and Tyler about any new bugs?

Lod, if I had my way, this tourney would be bug free. You go look in the orginal threads talking about the rules for the Tourney, I think you will find, I have been consistant on that. But there are so many people that can not be trusted, that I was outvoted by the masses. This has been stated several times, So for people not able to accept that they are either stupid or ignorant to suggest that i'm trying to get an unfair advantage with the use of bugs. You can choose which.

I agreed to follow the rules of the tourney, even if I don't like playing with bugs, but I understand they are there for there to fairness since not everybody is as trustworthy as we would prefer.

How interesting, that all of the whining that AAA has done to get this game they were definatly going to lose, with Baha about to lose his castle, and Sugar shortly after. All of your complaints were baseless.

First you accuse us of not bringing up a bug that 2 of your clan members in the game were fully aware of. Yet you failed to do the same thing, even within your own team.

2nd, you say we had an unfair advantage. Which obviously is our fault that you didn't even consult with your own teamates.

And so after your being soundly beaten, you get your restart. So why again are we starting this game over? Fulcrum ruled a restart was in order even though FSA did nothing wrong based on the rules of the tourney. But I want to know from AAA, why again was a restart in order? Considering the only reason for a Restart, is if you guys or we guys violated one of the rules, assuming you didn't violate it yourselves. That is my question, should be simple enough to answer right?

Also as a special bonus, for the benefit of the stupid and/or ignorant I have updated my profile. Since it seems simplistic things need further clarification. Hope that helps.

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Last Edited : Monday, 17 May 2004 - 15:32

Could this get any stupider......

I agree the whole reason for a restart was stupid.. so I just want that simple answer from Sugar.

Crovax you or BA had said earlier that you guys had planned out your whole strategy based on you believeing that we were using the bug correct?

Well this works out to be YOUR assumption and we cannot be placed responsible for what you thought we would do.

If we are to blame for ignorance,than believe it or not you guys are to blame for assumptions.You guys cannot consider yourselfs such ardent bug haters if you did not bring up the whole issue.You and whoever else it was that did not like bugs HAD to be the first ones asking.....what are we to do about the bugs?Of course this was up to anyone to bring up....INCLUDING your own clan.But you two have to stand out the most because of your beliefs.This mudslinging is tiring me and you people act like you could not have brough it up yourselfs and AAA jus had to bring it up.Obviously everyone that has taken a stab at you two have done it because of what you say...we could have brought it up to make it clear....but so could have you or any of your clanmates...CUT THE CRAP,drop it, we were all to blame not just AAA.

i KNOW im not wrong about this....i can be criticed as well but i find fault on you too.....also the new profile part you put up is a silly excuse,you will always go for your beliefs(at least for gaming)regardless of the situation,and when you reply to this topic,do so wisely.

"How interesting, that initially we (FSA) were being called out for not doing the exact same thing. So why didn't Lod or Tyler bring it up even with their own clan? Why didn't their own clan ask Lod and Tyler about any new bugs?"
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1.LOD and Tyler like most people would have seen the bug as.....obviously a bug and dismissed its use in our clan games because like everyone else they did want to know who the best clan really was and i find nothing wrong with that,i at least think these are the reasons,also, why use the bug when we would then find the reason for you people to start whinning had the situations been reversed and you guys had not used the bug.They expected a clean game and so should have you.

2.Why would we ask them when obviously Fulc would have posted the bugs that we were having an issue with on the clan tourney rules(like i said he allready took blame for that).

like i always say.....i sometimes make no sense....tell me if i dont and ill try to make sure i post what i mean as i do not always check my postings.

LOL Yea, even what you mean dont make sense to us.

Look Raptor will be on before midnight. He's got school I think during the day. He can log on, but cant do the backdoor security thing from there. He will join before midnight and we will have turn 1 (again) by noon.

Look lets just get this game going again, so we can win it and move on to the next. Once Raptor joins I will end this thread and start a new one, I'd really prefer if the conversations in this one did not occure in the next one.

So no carry overs. Including my team.

Closing this thread. I think enough was said about the subject.