really! i can be doing other stuff besides playing WOL atm and worrying about other stuff BUT NO i have to see if this darn clan game will start. plz make your mind up by thursday PLZ!!! i need to know NOW!!!!!!!

Prancer

prancer...cut it out man...your not even in the clan game...just be quiet...

Well teh sad part is that they are actually using 2 clans to pool from. The fact that people have to "JOIN" IJA for them to get a game going is pathetic.

Just forfiet and lets get ready. My FSA team has their lives too and we can't just wait for IJA to decide to play or not. Even if they forfiet we might not be able to start right away either, but out of respect to other clans there needs to be a start date or forfiet so we can plan our lives and schedules. If they forfiet right now it needs to be handeled like they played the game out and it ended. We may need time to prepare too.

@bigA:You are not up to date.perhaps you should have looked at the can list.The clan has been deleted for weeks.

Weather or not it is an official clan or just something you keep under the table is irrelevent.

Somebody get this going one way or another.

Bogoliubovski, mimic, Ultima Bahamut, LOD, Io, Braquemart, Finguld, ethedog, Hwatta

well one more left...

i dont truly have an opinion...except that those are some tough looking guests...its not truly my decision but i am fine with it...

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Since when is Bogoliubovski in IJA? Didnt he play against them last round for the crusaders?

Bogoliubovski and Hwatta NEITHER are in IJA!

OK, this is going too far now, not only have we waited for around 4 months for this match to start, passed a deadline twice...actually 3 times, now CURRENT members of OTHER clans are attempting to jump in and assist IJA because their members CAN'T or DON'T want to play!! C'mon!

I reject this attempt to further complicate a tourney and match when IJA has been given MORE than adequate time to recruit a couple players if they needed to.

AAA has been patient, even though somewhat annoyed, in our waiting for a game between us and IJA, I don't believe this is acceptable to the intention and spirit of the tourney.

Last Edited : Wednesday, 4 May 2005 - 10:23

kingrichard View Messages
Sent : Monday, May 02, 2005 - 12:22
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"It's about starting or just admitting that you can't and let's end it.":sugarleo
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I would have started this thing as fast as possible, but most of the guys are inactive or can only play slow games.

I am a little bit upset about forum discussion(too many crap discussions lateley there)and most of the IJA guys are not reading there anymore.

I canīt say something about funker(wedding plans).
2 guests will play for us.

The AAA can vote against them but I wonīt accept any voice from other clans!!!

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The above is a pm from Kingrichard, admitting that IJA CAN'T field a team and wishing for AAA approval of ANY non-clan members to play as 'guests'.

My answer is 'not acceptable'...IJA can't field a team, end of story...game over. If this were allowed, then how can ANY clan take pride in their finish or rank in the tourney?! The tourney was supposed to be between the clans...not between any group of players assembled to play for a clan without ANY intention of permanent membership or separation from their origional or current clan.

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I perfectly agree with Sugarleo. We want to face only IJA Clan without "guest" players taken from other Clans. I would accept independent players but NOT players from Crusaders or any other Clan.

Hi everibody!

IJA asked me to play as a guest. As i love clangames and that there are too few campaigns runing, i accepted. I only put the condition it would be agreed by everybody.

I haven't read all post (just flying over it) but i could smell that there was tention due to the waiting time and the fact that IJA has invited players. I'm not used to the rules of conduct in clan's affiliation if there are some.
Just let me know exactly if i'm welcomed or if you don't want me to play at all.

It would be great to begin this game tough and you are waiting for a long time, so don'tbe affraid of the Bogo

Id love to play you and any other that you can put together for a team but not in this clan tourney. The purpose of it was to see what clan was the strongest and to give the winners eternal glory and unlimited bragging rights. It was NOT about who can find the strongest mixed team at a given time. Ive been compareing it to if you had agreed to meet a cpl of your pals for a showdown at golf playing for a sum of money and then when you get to the course you find out that your friends has called in replacement players like Tiger Woods and Bernhardt Lange. I would love to play thoose guys , but not for money

Thanks for the comparison

I removed myself from queue. I was looking forward to it tough.. I hope we'll have soon another opportunity.

Sorry for the one who invited me but i won't play if all opponents don't agree. Just tell me if i'm needed and welcome in case the situation changes.

Thanks for the comparison

I removed myself from queue. I was looking forward to it tough.. I hope we'll have soon another opportunity.

Sorry for the one who invited me but i won't play if all opponents don't agree. Just tell me if i'm needed and welcome in case the situation changes.

Same as Bogo, I agreed to play at the invitation of kingrichard...under the condition that all opponents agreed. As that is not the case, I am also out of the queue for this game unless the situation changes.
Cheers,
H.

I think Bogo and Hwatta are correct here. That match may be a good and fun game, but AAA does not accept "guests" (and personally I do not think they should). Sorry to KR if this is a "crap post" as you refer to it, but from the outside it seems like the only "crap" is what AAA is going through.

An earlier post did show activity by IJA. I think after 4 months if the game has not begun with 5 of the 10 members that had been in IJA back in January that AAA be declared the winner on May 8.

*Claps for Corflu* here here good idea and i agree with the AAA's its a shame you've had to wait this long i also believe that theres more then enough adequate players who dont belong to clans they could have asked to join thier clan instead of asking other clan members. We replaced inactive members for our clan matches and to keep our clan active and our points up so why wouldnt they consider replacing inactive players when this match is soooo important to and the final deadline is upon them? may 8th it is?

the deadline was may 1st it has passed...

First, I wish to thank Hwatta and Bogoliubovski for offering to play....and I hope you guys understand our position concerning other clan members and this game.

As far as deadlines...let's see, there's been a number of them, but May 8th isn't the date. In our last exchange of messages, kingrichard stated that if the game didn't start by the 5th, a forfeit would be agreed upon.
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AutoBattle 3 no game until may 5th = fortfeit.

ok?
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So if I'm understanding this correctly, the forfeit would be effective at midnight tonight, game time.
We would have preferred a game with IJA, but I think all will agree that AAA has provided more than enough time for IJA to recruit a couple of new players during the last four months if their present membership couldn't or wouldn't play.

If another tournament is ever organized, a more strict timeframe should be set for the start of games...and perhaps an acceptable provision for 'guest' players. But as harley stated, an active clan should be recruiting to protect themselves from the situation that arose for IJA. I know I've been 'sweating' the same problem over the last four months, trying to maintain available players at a moment's notice.

So again, thanks to Hwatta, Bogoliubovski, Corflu and others that have shared their opinions on the matter.

I agree with you Sugar, if there is another clan tournament rules need to be in place. I also think the clan leaders should get together and set these up before first game is played. I for one believe this tournament has gone on wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to long, altho it has been exciting at times it also has been fustrating So as of midnihgt tonight the AAA will advance to the next leg of this tournament. Congrates to you all and good luck in next game.

~who will start organizing the next clan tournament, it will take some time to work out all the rules, so games can begin say the year 2008~